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Jul 31st 2023, 13:47:53

Increase explore land amount by a percentage. Ideally this is meant for any non-bot server but might be fine in other servers too. Haven't really thought this through other than the all x servers get boring half way through. Might give people more incentive to hit other players. Might not.

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Jul 31st 2023, 14:32:07

Luck kind of does this already given the random factor in explores.

Bonus.

braden Game profile

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Jul 31st 2023, 15:03:00

Make one that targets explore rates more.. noticeably.
Minimum is 6 for a rep? Max explore bonus at a minimum of 8 per, on average?

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Aug 1st 2023, 13:16:19

Weedy gets it. That was my intent. The explore rate increases or at least reduces slower based on the percentage.

I know it's tied to total land now, but it would hopefully just check the percentage of the bonus as it goes down. In my head it is an easy equation and add, but might not be.

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Aug 1st 2023, 13:29:03

You should be able to get about 30% of what people who grab get looking back before bots. People grab 500k now? So you should be able to explore 150,000. Adjust the number of acres explored accordingly.

If that sounds gross, it is because bots have inflated everything.

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Aug 1st 2023, 21:37:42

Lol req. Honestly if I could explore 150k acres I would net as a techer on occasion lol.

I think they look at things like that as like....exploring costs 1 turn, using your bonus on turns and then using those turns to explore is the exploration bonus.

I'd be down to explore for 150k acres tho. I'm always all for bringing back all-x. But if you tinker with explore rates, the bots will also just be 100k acres and everything will get even more inflated.

Increasing explore rate as a bonus % won't be great bonus tho. By the time you get it to a decent percentage, you'll be at 6 acres explore and the bonus will bump you up only an Acre or two. Would need to be something like "10 more acres for the next 20 turns explored" or something to be viable. Like an "exploration boom" or something.

Edited By: DerrickICN on Aug 1st 2023, 21:42:38
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Aug 1st 2023, 21:53:13

When the land was inflated in the server via free bot land, all-x players were forgotten about...

It also appears worse than I thought. The set I did all x to 30,438 acres looks like some of the big guys were 60k+ acres...

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Aug 2nd 2023, 14:30:01

Don't over complicate it with booms. If 45 acres is the 100% mark, then percentage can always be based on that. I.E. 20% bonus in the column would equal 9 additional acres per turn.

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Aug 2nd 2023, 15:21:29

Originally posted by ZEN:
Don't over complicate it with booms. If 45 acres is the 100% mark, then percentage can always be based on that. I.E. 20% bonus in the column would equal 9 additional acres per turn.


Yeeaahhhhhh, don't you think tho that if it is a percentage, you wouldn't ever be at 20% with 45 acre returns? Think of it like this. If you get an extra 2% every time you use 8 bonus points on it, it would take you 10 days to get to 20%. 10 days of X-ing on a non-rep would get you to around 10k acres. At 10k acres, explore rate is only 10, and so a 20% bonus would give you 2 acres. 20 days would be 40% on 6 acre returns is 3 acres. Your first batch would be max 6% on 45 acre returns, or 3 acres.

I don't see it providing anymore than 2 or 3 acres as a percentage in standard gameplay, unless the bonus itself was super aggressive, like 10% per day and it goes up to 500% or something. That's sorta where my brain went. Love the idea, but the way explore rate goes down all set, it would continuously devalue the bonus, making it essentially a 2 acre bonus no matter how many times you punch it. That's why I would use a hard boom type bonus rather than a percentage based bonus. I'd also be down for a super aggressive percentage bonus tho. Like req said, some of us actually enjoy all-x more than farming 3500 bots in a set. Would be cool if that was viable. But you'd need it to be insanely aggressive to achieve that.

Edited By: DerrickICN on Aug 2nd 2023, 15:37:49
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Aug 3rd 2023, 14:00:58

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Originally posted by ZEN:
Don't over complicate it with booms. If 45 acres is the 100% mark, then percentage can always be based on that. I.E. 20% bonus in the column would equal 9 additional acres per turn.


Yeeaahhhhhh, don't you think tho that if it is a percentage, you wouldn't ever be at 20% with 45 acre returns? Think of it like this. If you get an extra 2% every time you use 8 bonus points on it, it would take you 10 days to get to 20%. 10 days of X-ing on a non-rep would get you to around 10k acres. At 10k acres, explore rate is only 10, and so a 20% bonus would give you 2 acres. 20 days would be 40% on 6 acre returns is 3 acres. Your first batch would be max 6% on 45 acre returns, or 3 acres.

I don't see it providing anymore than 2 or 3 acres as a percentage in standard gameplay, unless the bonus itself was super aggressive, like 10% per day and it goes up to 500% or something. That's sorta where my brain went. Love the idea, but the way explore rate goes down all set, it would continuously devalue the bonus, making it essentially a 2 acre bonus no matter how many times you punch it. That's why I would use a hard boom type bonus rather than a percentage based bonus. I'd also be down for a super aggressive percentage bonus tho. Like req said, some of us actually enjoy all-x more than farming 3500 bots in a set. Would be cool if that was viable. But you'd need it to be insanely aggressive to achieve that.


Dude. You are missing the point.

Not 20% of what your current explore rate is. 20% of the original explore rate. I am not thinking of it as it works today, but as in simple terms as far as how to implement it with little to no work. So, if they put in code a starting amount and just take the percentage based on that. Should be rather easy to implement in code.

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Aug 4th 2023, 18:51:35

Like your base is 45 and it goes up all set instead of down and if you get the bonus to 100% your explore rate would be 90?

I am 1000% for sure missing the point lol.

I'd play a reverse explore rate set tho haha.

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Aug 4th 2023, 19:17:19

Have explore rate attached to population. Higher population more people to explore.
Would make all x rep casher fun again and ffo already buy cashing techs right, so they wouldn't be too far left behind but aren't they already overpowered on all x servers?

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Aug 4th 2023, 19:22:15

Yeahhhhh but not as much as botted servers. The oil destock has as much to do with FFO being overpowered as the method of land acquisition. Long dead is the best MBR winning. At this point it might just make the game more fun to flip the explore rate. It wouldn't really affect much aside from bots getting too fat and the 350k Acre countries getting inflated to 450k. *shrugs*

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Aug 4th 2023, 19:47:34

It might allow some of these older people who don't want to grab to have a little bit more fun while we are just giving away the farm anyway...

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Aug 4th 2023, 19:54:36

Derrick - I think his idea is that the percentage is set - so say you get 1% explore bonus each day, then they're all worth .45 acres per explore so it linearly increases the bonus to add on to your base. So if you should have 10 acres per explore and you have 13% bonus, you'd explore ~16 acres per turn. At 6 acres / turn and 31% explore you'd be about ~14 acres / turn, so you could keep growing to a larger scale with simple coding.

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Aug 4th 2023, 21:01:25

Ahhhh OK so 100% bonus on 25k would be 51 acres/x. That could be cool. Thanks for not being ZEN and saying the exact same thing. I understand it way better.

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Aug 6th 2023, 2:22:21

Why don’t you guys ask someone in LaF to make this suggestion, that’s the only way anything ever gets developed
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Aug 6th 2023, 2:41:36

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Aug 6th 2023, 2:42:35

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Aug 6th 2023, 2:44:12

Give me or else fire

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Aug 6th 2023, 2:45:22

You owe me. Qz has a computer for this? The state will take and give to them blix breddgrun