Cheater sighting!!! - Earth Empires Forum

Alin

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:22:26

Originally posted by qzjul:

I'd like to point out that a number of people have employed the "put tech at ridiculous prices and hope" strategy in the past, and it does, very occasionally, pay off; RED had one guy who would persistently do that, and something like 1 reset in 4 it'd pay off and he'd do really well, the rest of the time not so much...

From my point of view it will never work if it is not coordinated. not @ 9383.
Cx cheated me in the past and was under my radar for a month now. This is not the first time he gets "ridiculous" market prices.

I am sure you - as a game admin have the best intentions for this game. CX however - found a weak point and exploited it.

I have nothing with CX, except the fact he was cheating. I don`t even know him, or his history. However no one can justify why the business market was bough up to 9383, while the residential stood @ 1400. That was clearly not a n00b but some coordination looking for the 9383 tech.

And i am done!

Edited By: Alin on Nov 27th 2013, 20:32:44

Cable

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:26:41

WTF is with 17000 indy tech pieces sold at 200-600 dollars?!?!!?!?!!?!?

Alin

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:27:42

CX playing a commie ? :)

Cable

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:32:33

Its under the buy out can a person even get it with orders when the server buys it out

Alin

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:35:04

search at the end for the big 3 commies.
Look at their nw raise at the begining of the set when 17k indy was on. You can figure it - i am done being Mr. searching for fairplay in EE.

I`ll just play and try to win legit as i usually do.

Edited By: Alin on Nov 27th 2013, 20:37:04

mrford

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:41:08

you arnt done with fluff, you are a Romanian loser who lives for this fluff, stop lying. it makes you just as bad as the cheaters.

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Alin

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:45:26

Where did i lie you gun addicted idiot ?

P.S: I am pretty much proud of my origin while you will always remain a stupid redneck! one with many guns ...

Edited By: Alin on Nov 27th 2013, 20:47:41

mrford

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:48:33

you were quitting, then you were just going to play to kill the cheaters, now you are just going to play and try to win like you usually do, which is it sir drama queen? you live for this fluff, and if this game didnt have "cheaters" you would probably lose interest. so just expose them, thank them and move on. no need for the soap opera you enjoy so much.

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Cable

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:49:47

Well im gonna suggest to QZ start looking into the players "aiding" each other and start deleting people. Another 3000 pieces have sold in the last 10 minutes making it 20 000 which is a retarded advantage less then 360 turns in.

mrford

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:51:05

you do understand that tech auto sells to the market at those prices right? no one is benefiting, whoever is selling it is just losing out. you people amaze me

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Alin

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:52:01

lol - epic.

Cable

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:58:11

Yes Ford I DO know that, hence I said the market buys it out, but want im not 100% on is if I have a standing order for less then 1000 does it still apply? Even if it doesn't max selling price is 1400, which is clear coordination no matter how you look at it, there's players working together for someone's benefit. Almost not worth starting a country this week because of this crap.

mrford

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Nov 27th 2013, 20:58:40

the market buys it period. you are taking a brush fire and turning it into the fire of the century through word of mouth. stop. take a breath, and look at fluff rationally. it could just be a nub techer

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

CX LaE

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Nov 27th 2013, 21:05:54

Yep, guys, it's CLEARLY me. My farmer needs indy tech... *rolls eyes*

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Xinhuan

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Nov 27th 2013, 21:33:39

Originally posted by Cable:

You will get nothing if you SO for tech under $1001 on this server, even if you are the only person with SOs on.

TDA101

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Nov 27th 2013, 22:01:18

ALL THAT END OF SET TECH . I WONDER WHO BUYS IT.

CX LaE

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Nov 27th 2013, 22:05:28

Haven't a clue, unless it's me buying my own stuff with the same country.

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Alin

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Nov 27th 2013, 22:14:42

Originally posted by TDA101:

ALL THAT END OF SET TECH . I WONDER WHO BUYS IT.

That is usually bough by a friend. For example - people who come from alliance server, team server , primary, FFA ... they all have "friends" here and there.

So they ask a friend to do it.

qzjul

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Nov 27th 2013, 22:33:43

If we see evidence of coordination, we'll absolutely delete. Though that is up to the Express Mods of course....

Finally did the signature thing.

TDA101

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Nov 27th 2013, 22:56:25

37.2 mins ago
You purchased 88,407 Oil Barrels at $15 for $1,326,105 via standing order.
5,555,555,467,148 Oil Barrels remain in your order.

CX LaE

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Nov 27th 2013, 22:57:21

Ive already bagged some @ 30 :D

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Alin

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Nov 27th 2013, 22:58:02

Qz i don`t really know, what you understand by "evidence"?
It`s is clearly to me this will go 4ever until you will put an end with a realistic maximum market price. Otherwise - turrets @ 350 / tech @ 9383 will sale. And anyone who benefits of it, will just claim it was a n00b doing it.

I mean com on - you know how alliances, team or other group servers, work. People know people. People have friends. Friends will help people.

Clear evidence? - allow me to make a joke even if this is serious ... you want videotape or something ? Same Ip ( that era is long gone ).

Just check for the buyer country and sellers country in those cases ( doubt you have time for that). If they are somehow related on any other server - that is your evidence.

And i am 99% sure that in the most recent case, buyer and seller are related somehow on other servers.

MADMARK

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Nov 27th 2013, 23:07:45

Alin

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Nov 27th 2013, 23:25:46

Good point MADMARK!

mac23

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Nov 27th 2013, 23:26:51

lol

qzjul

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Nov 27th 2013, 23:26:57

Originally posted by Alin:

It`s is clearly to me this will go 4ever until you will put an end with a realistic maximum market price. Otherwise - turrets @ 350 / tech @ 9383 will sale. And anyone who benefits of it, will just claim it was a n00b doing it.

Why don't you just put up some of yours at the end of the set?

Finally did the signature thing.

Cable

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Nov 27th 2013, 23:31:44

Even if they aren't related on other servers its a fluffing joke, and 100 million dollars makes the world of a difference as does 150% indy off the start. Its a clear advatange to the players working together to make this kind of fluff happen then you wonder why your player base is thinning out.

Alin

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Nov 27th 2013, 23:36:40

Originally posted by qzjul:

Originally posted by Alin:

Why don't you just put up some of yours at the end of the set?

I tought to do that in order to somehow block part of market coordination . But what use ?

Let`s say I`ll put 20k of each tech @ 5000 ? I`ll have to cover all the market while the coordinators have to cover only 1 specific tech.

It is useless.

P.S: Sure i got your point - you want me to sell some expensive goods and see if it is possible. IT is possible i know, it happen to me too. However, what happen last set is not what you are trying to say and point out.

I have dozens of proofs for that. All type of proofs. Palpable proofs, chat with the "coordinator" proofs - but whatever. I already put to much time into this. I`ll do what everybody else does - and stop caring.

Edited By: Alin on Nov 27th 2013, 23:38:41

Xinhuan

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Nov 28th 2013, 1:06:58

So what is a realistic maximum market price?

qzjul

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Nov 28th 2013, 1:23:56

Originally posted by Alin:

All type of proofs. Palpable proofs, chat with the "coordinator" proofs

Send logs to the express mods?

Finally did the signature thing.

Grizzly

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Nov 28th 2013, 2:36:20

Residential (100%) 0 $9999 $2300 4089 12
More cheaters

blid

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Nov 28th 2013, 2:37:42

I've been thinking about it and I don't believe what happened last set could be possible without coordination. It's disappointing but that's my personal belief after reading all the stuff.

Here's the real logic: first off, $9k tech, why even attempt selling it if there's no legitimate reason for anyone to buy it? Secondly, like Alin says, there was res available for $1400, why is someone buying $9k bus tech? They bought through tens of thousands of tech just to get to that $9k tech. Thirdly, it's not a newb if they have $500m to blow (just on the $9k tech, much more if you count the cheaper stuff), and it's not an accident either, because some was bought, then more... it was sold over several purchases. I don't believe all of this aligns without coordination. Maybe there's a chance, but I think there's less than a 1% chance...

I also don't know but I'd bet the person selling $9k business tech sold their other techs at $1k, because business was the only tech that was targeted in the buyout. But that's just guessing.

Edited By: blid on Nov 28th 2013, 2:50:10

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

galleri

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Nov 28th 2013, 2:54:08

My post must of not came through...then again I am travelling through the middle of the Tennessee mountains. Anyhow in about 2 hours I will be where there is no cell service...and who knows if they ever upgraded from dial up in the back woods where I am going
I suggest you all take this up with martian. And Alin sorry..we won't give out country numbers/owners.

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Nov 28th 2013, 3:08:55

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Getafix

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Nov 28th 2013, 3:55:22

Good idea Warster.. theres a lot of mud being slung :)

Xinhuan

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Nov 28th 2013, 4:09:27

Originally posted by galleri:

I suggest you all take this up with martian.

But is martian reading? lol.

galleri

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Nov 28th 2013, 4:40:54

Ceiling llama sees all :p

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Alin

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Nov 28th 2013, 6:53:55

Originally posted by Warster:

*stays retired by popular demand* :)

Come back!

Cable

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Nov 28th 2013, 14:50:49

Edited By: Cable on Nov 28th 2013, 15:10:26
See Original Post

mrford

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Nov 28th 2013, 14:54:51

are you still on about that? if someone wants to sell tech for below $1000, no one benefits from it, period. the market auto buys it. sometimes i think there should be a reading comprehension test before you are allowed to post on the forums.

leeching is another story. the more probably story is the techer is just a flufftard and wants to sell the tech for quick cash so he can still run turns, but doesnt know about the minimums.

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Cable

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Nov 28th 2013, 15:09:35

There was indy tech sold at 1000-1400 not sure of the exact amount but I know it happened.

Alin

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Nov 28th 2013, 15:45:22

Originally posted by mrford:

Just a short notice. This guy is a redneck aka as peasant aka gun addicted idiot.
He should not talk about reading comprehension because all he adds to this game is a pile of fluff.
Considering the above mentioned, no one should really care what he posts - especially you Cable.

deepcode

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Nov 28th 2013, 18:01:50

Originally posted by Grizzly:

Residential (100%) 0 $9999 $2300 4089 12
More cheaters

That 9999 tech was mine. Saving turns for the night after my tech start and seeing if someone would actually buy it, nobody did.

Prices don't mean cheating is going on, just the potential that there could be coordination going on.

mrford

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Nov 28th 2013, 20:57:40

Originally posted by Alin:

Originally posted by mrford:

im sorry i cant hear you over the sound of you cheating, and then fluffing about others cheating lol.

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford