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Raf:
H4 knowing a allies plan for the set isn't exactly shocking.
It is not, it is just something that goes to show how premeditated this was on the part of LaF.
PDM killed a LaF country. That pretty much is a declaration of war whether you post it on AT or not. At that point LaF was either going to farm PDM to crap or declare war. The mass farming is in response to killing the country.
Ummmm no... people used to kill single countries back in the day when the offense was egregious enough. Countries used to die for 5 hits as standard policy. We were more lenient than that. I have zero doubt if someone hit you 7 times unprovoked, after earlier hostilities, that you would kill it too, without contact.
If I am netting and know someone is gunning for them, common sense says farm the crap out of them.
You see, you and your alliance mates are less ethical than most other people.
This all comes down to one basic question.
Would LaF have farmed PDM 48 hours prior to RD FS if PDM had not killed a LaF country?
Yes.
If the country wasn't killed. A few poeple with knowledge probably would have taken some cheap shots but not anything remotely close to level of what is happening now.
Your FA said the hits he made, which resulted in his death, were due to spy ops. He apologized for farming an innocent country since he had to admit he was in the wrong. He also showed how easy it is to determine who did the spy ops. It is logical to assume he knew who made the spy ops at the time of the unjustified farming. Regardless, the farming itself was not justified and once LaF realized that, it would have made sense to stop hits since the whole thing was their fault. Since you guys could easily have known who did the spy ops, it only makes sense that what you did was intentional - after all we had already offered for you to farm and kill the country who actually did the spy ops.
PDM should have just declared war on LaF. Even if you got creamed you could have just targeted those with largest stock in FS and put a dent in their netting. Or take what deal you can get that stops the hits for rest of set. You take a licking and plan fluff out and eventually you can kick their teeth in.
Ummmm... why should everything devolve into war? We look for peaceful solutions. We are happy to have a small skirmish and move on. With the amount of regularity that LaF causes this exact infraction against us and their solution to then be DNH the rest of the set - there was no way we would bow down, again. We are also not snaky cowards like you and we do not go into hiding so we can sneak attack someone later.
In the good old days I was farmed by LaF lots while in small alliances. As H4 probably remembers me harassing him on icq insistently. You work with what you can and hit them when it would hurt them most. (can we get an Wildcards/Exist reunion set and just FS LaF :-p)
No, you hit them when it is topical. We deal with a situation and once it is done we move on. If we die, we'll get revenge next chance we get. If we are alive we'll deal with it immediately. Again, I guess we just aren't two-faced cowards.
Also trying to enforce retals with specialty attacks would be a hard enough thing for SoF to do let alone PDM. Why would you put your alliance in a position like that if you know you don't have activity to deal with fight it will assuredly lead to.
Umm, we stand up for what is right, not what is easy. LaF can fight us over this every round. RD won't be there to bail them out every time and then the fun netting games are over.