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TaSk1

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Feb 25th 2012, 6:32:03

yip that's pretty fair considering the slight numbers md have to deal with.

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Marco

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Feb 25th 2012, 7:41:47

Hpm and hpc doesn't deviate by numbers advantage/disadvantage.

TaSk1

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Feb 25th 2012, 8:35:49

Yes it does you muppet, more members more hits ,laf has 10 or so more countries more hitting = higher hpm

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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Feb 25th 2012, 8:39:13

errr... no you are wrong.

More members != higher hits per member.

It is a unit of measurement that is meant to factor out the number of countries hitting.

Pain

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Feb 25th 2012, 8:56:49

hes saying only the hits per minute is higher with more countries which is true, hits per country doesnt matter if you have 10 or 100 countries.

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TaSk1

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Feb 25th 2012, 9:02:24

exactly ty pain, I specifically said hpm not hpc you pole smoker.

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hanlong

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Feb 25th 2012, 9:05:59

what is hits per minute? i thought hpm meant hits per member

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I think we actually doing pretty good considering we got FS'd and we had like 10% less members: 48% attacks for 60% kills sounds good to me.

Will be interesting to see how effective restarts will be.

-[Panzer Division MD]-

Makinso

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Feb 25th 2012, 9:28:42

Stats look interesting.

TaSk1

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Feb 25th 2012, 9:35:55

if hpc is hit's per country, why would they name hpm hit's per member? come on hanjob haven't you got a chat to run bud?

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TaSk1

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Feb 25th 2012, 9:38:17

THE MIGHTY MAKI!! RAAAWR! now there's a man of real stature. When are you letting those dog's of war out the gate mate?

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Forgotten

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Feb 25th 2012, 9:48:43

Originally posted by Karim:

I don't get it.

MD got caught with their pants down, backs out of a FS. You cannot possibly defend yourselves saying you got FSed.

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Karim

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Feb 25th 2012, 9:51:05

That's how it is: just check the news and you'll see yourself.

We got FSd, lost 10 countries, CSd and killed 8 so far.

Do we seem scared? Don't think so.

-[Panzer Division MD]-

TaSk1

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Feb 25th 2012, 9:55:13

MD took that FS like a BOSS!

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Forgotten

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Feb 25th 2012, 9:55:39

So if I pull a gun on a another person, but I don't shoot, he pulls his gun and shoots me. I put one in his head.

Can I tell the judge that it was self defense?

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Marco

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Feb 25th 2012, 10:00:59

Originally posted by TaSk1:

if hpc is hit's per country, why would they name hpm hit's per member? come on hanjob haven't you got a chat to run bud?

Clan a starts war with 83 countries =83 members

10 die and restart
Now total country count for the duration of war is 93(hits per country)

hits per member=live country count over duration=83 members

Hpc-country efficiency
Hpm-member activity

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Feb 25th 2012, 10:01:55

Karim, it isnt realy FS. You was prepared and waited for it:)

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Karim

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Feb 25th 2012, 10:02:04

Well, you know, i like to consider facts: anything else ( logs, "my cousin's friend said", opinions, etc etc ) can be manipulated.

Facts are we took an FS and we CSd, anything else is an opinion and it's like buttholes: anyone has his own ;)

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TaSk1

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Feb 25th 2012, 10:05:20

laf didn't put one in md's head you more like grazed an ear lobe they're very much still alive and shooting back.

nom nom nom le me eating the laf trolls up tonight!

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locket

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Feb 25th 2012, 10:51:49

Originally posted by TaSk1:

laf didn't put one in md's head you more like grazed an ear lobe they're very much still alive and shooting back.

nom nom nom le me eating the laf trolls up tonight!

you are crazy dude :P Look at the stats overall ;)

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Feb 25th 2012, 11:05:53

yea so laf had greater numbers and the fs that's how it should look when those two factors come into play. MD have put up a good fight having to go on the defense from the word go. look at the fail attempts of laf to md 427 FAILS to 167 can you say STONEWALLED fool!

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locket

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Feb 25th 2012, 11:08:55

Originally posted by TaSk1:

... btw the only one trolling is you ;) and poorly

TaSk1

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Feb 25th 2012, 11:15:58

just because you got stonewalled you laf sock puppet.

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Xinhuan

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Feb 25th 2012, 12:12:55

Sure, LaF got the FS in. But it was not a surprise FS, it was announced well in advance, and MD was given the opportunity to FS first at or before 10pm Game Time. 10 minutes in, MD didn't do it, LaF wasn't going to wait. Even then, right after the FS, MD could have launched the CS immediately instead of waiting a further 15 minutes.

There is an inherent advantage to FSing first (you score the first few important kills), but there is also an advantage to CSing 15 minutes later (you know who isn't online in the FS, so you hit those first, making the CS easier and look more impressive).

I would argue that it is a mutual FS/CS since both alliances were online and ready to FS/CS, and the respective FSes were only 15 minutes apart.

TY

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Feb 25th 2012, 13:03:07

An almost 2k hit difference, with LAF (3844 hits) almost doubling the amount of hits that MD (1863) has done and only a 2 country lead in kills. Either LAF's hitting is inefficient or MD is walling well.

Good luck to both sides!!

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sigma

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Feb 25th 2012, 13:36:23

LaF has stuck mostly to GSing so far, while MD has gs/br 50-50.

Also LaF has ran into a few wallers, while MD looks like it only ran into 1.

Good stats so far, best of luck.

Drow

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Feb 25th 2012, 14:08:00

14 kills for laf 9 for MD.
the NW losses are far different, and says to me that MD are killing smaller LaF countries.
MD are doing it tighter though, with roughly a hpk about 60 points better than LaF's.

be interesting to see how it plays out.
If MD have the determination to stay in this one, they COULD turn it around.

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Son Goku

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Feb 25th 2012, 14:12:45

Originally posted by sigma:

LaF has stuck mostly to GSing so far, while MD has gs/br 50-50.

Also LaF has ran into a few wallers, while MD looks like it only ran into 1.

Good stats so far, best of luck.

It tends to work that way when one alliance is removing breakers while the other is going for low hanging fruit.

TaSk1

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Feb 25th 2012, 14:15:41

that low hanging fruit has your tag on it lol hence part of YOUR tree!

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hanlong

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Feb 25th 2012, 14:41:22

karim: i already said you were full turns already and i already pretty much given you a prewarning just so the war would be more interesting for both of us.

just fight on the battlefield, no need to convince us otherwise =)

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Son Goku

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Feb 25th 2012, 14:41:59

Originally posted by TaSk1:

that low hanging fruit has your tag on it lol hence part of YOUR tree!

The point being, all kills are not created equal.

hanlong

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Feb 25th 2012, 14:53:49

this war is going to be a long war anyways, we all know that.

no need to decide on a winner when it just started =)

we'll come back to this sooner or later =)

Don Hanlong
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ArsenalMD

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Feb 25th 2012, 15:34:24

We got FS'd by an alliance with 20% more members than us, to expect we can just come back from that and win is wishful.

hanlong

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Feb 25th 2012, 15:54:20

You were ready for war and was given a warning. No need to spin around that fact.

MD is a really good alliance also, and up there with the best of them. I expect a long hard fought war and nothing less from you guys, and you guys are clearly doing that so far.

Like I said earlier, best of luck on the battlefield.

Don Hanlong
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Karim

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Feb 25th 2012, 16:16:04

Originally posted by hanlong:

just fight on the battlefield, no need to convince us otherwise =)

Exactly my plan, the one i am sticking to :)

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hanlong

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Feb 25th 2012, 16:16:54

Originally posted by Karim:

Originally posted by hanlong:

just fight on the battlefield, no need to convince us otherwise =)

Exactly my plan, the one i am sticking to :)

+1

Best of luck to ya

Don Hanlong
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Karim

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Feb 25th 2012, 16:29:38

You guys as well: we'll do our best to kick you down.

With some luck, we could even do it! ;)

-[Panzer Division MD]-

TaSk1

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Feb 25th 2012, 16:56:35

RAAAAWR Karim heart of a lion dude! EAT EM UP!

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mdemon

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Feb 25th 2012, 17:35:09

I like MD's HPK ratio. Either they are more efficient at it or they found some ill prepared Laf countries.

En4cer85

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Feb 25th 2012, 20:17:45

MD played it very smart for the FS, they waited for laf to go first t[;o show them who wasn't online... got some very good easy kills right off the bat taking out some well stocked countries. Good ploy tbh.

They knew laf was going to hit them, however with the activity difference i think another 24 hours will really show how far laf are ahead in this war.

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Feb 25th 2012, 20:36:28

Originally posted by TaSk1:

that low hanging fruit has your tag on it lol hence part of YOUR tree!

Yeah but you have no chance of winning the war killing bottom up while we are killing top down. Everyone knows what MD is doing is a method of padding stats, don't' try to play us for fools we've been around this too long to fall for your transparent argument.

Everyone knows killing smaller countries generally requires less hits than killing larger ones.

Forgotten

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Feb 25th 2012, 20:37:22

Unless they are taking a shower or named Milk Ocean

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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Feb 25th 2012, 20:39:02

also: HPM = Hits per Member, not hits per minute. Don't be a newb.

Pain

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Feb 25th 2012, 21:04:52

HPM is hits per minute. why would you even think its hits per memeber? HPC would be the same as HPM in that case. its redundant.

Hits per minute is relative to how active each alliance is, hits per country is how efficiently each country is using its turns.

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locket

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Feb 25th 2012, 21:06:41

Hits per member could simply be hits per total members which is your initial members. HPC would be the hits per total countries who have hit or somesuch. HPminute makes no sense in this game.

Pain

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Feb 25th 2012, 21:13:54

maybe youre right. now that i did the math it doesnt make sense.

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En4cer85

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Feb 25th 2012, 21:15:29

Pain the war is 23 hours old now.. if its hits per minute it would mean laf had made 95 220 hits in its first strike :P

hanlong

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Feb 25th 2012, 21:16:53

MD has a much better wall rate than LaF

congrats. you guys don't go down easy =)

you guys killed a few of ours too fast. we called them but when they came online they were already dead. wtg MD =)

Don Hanlong
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mrford

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Feb 25th 2012, 22:16:43

Originally posted by TaSk1:

if hpc is hit's per country, why would they name hpm hit's per member? come on hanjob haven't you got a chat to run bud?

I can't tell if you are being serious. HPM is hits per member HOC is Hits per country.

The number of members does not change, the number of countries does because of restarts.

Hits per minute is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

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