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posted by
justtaint:
Arsenal made his comment regarding the c.20 members of LaF being larger than MD's biggest country. He did not accuse LaF of having 20 members cheating. Go back and re-read the statement. Others have taken that comment and ran with it, but the purpose of stating that was to point out how fishy we thought it was at the time. Initially we thought we were outplayed (legitimately) but now with the revelation that HLW and TC had ocomplete access to whatever they wanted we know that wasn't the case.
No one in MD believes that 20 members of LaF cheated. We know that 2 of them did, we have suspicions that there might have been more but until the admins have a chance to look through logs, we won't know. AND we may never know.
That's the unfortunate part of this whole situation, in some people's mind the whole of LaF is suspect from now on. Since we don't have access to their boards, we'll never know what information was stolen from other alliances, what insights were gleaned from anyone on Boxcar. I'm not insinuating any of that happened, but for some people it will always be at the back of their minds due to the actions of at least two LaF members.
I count a few LaF members as friends, and a few exMDers are still playing there (you bastard, Nekkid!). I have no ill-will towards the membership of LaF. They didn't cheat. They may have benefited from the cheating of their leader, but I believe they had no knowledge of it.
"The week before the FS, LaF began to rapidly jump. First to our size then higher and higher, until just before our FS they had (from memory) c.20 countries bigger than our biggest country. Now LaF may be better netgainers than us, but not 1 or 2 resets before MD finished with ANW of $90m and took TNW – they aren’t that much better. They had c.20 guys bigger than our best player Highrock. I tell you right now that guy is a genius at this game so what was happening was pretty unbelievable to us. The public market was high from MD’ers buying up (and we though LaF’ers to) so we just could not believe the military levels LaF’ers had and the cash they had. Guys were twice our size with the same cash and stock as us after having bought up."
Please tell me how he is not saying that we are cheating en masse with that. He talks about how great Highrock is supposed to be at this game and claims we had equal stocks etc and somehow got double networth out of it. At least call a spade a spade. He may have slightly backed off his opinion but that was definitely what he intended for that original post.
Maybe after this war people will back off eachother and choose to heal the server instead of just damage them further. This could be a chance for both sides.
