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Trife Game profile

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Feb 28th 2011, 1:52:06

as far as i know it is:


((your spies + your allies' spies)/your land)*your spy tech


can anyone tell me if that is anywhere close to correct?

Marshal Game profile

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Feb 28th 2011, 21:38:54

nothing on wiki about that so ............

should be somewhat close or allies spies get added after your raw spal.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

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Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

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qzjul Game profile

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Feb 28th 2011, 21:42:18

mmm no its the same as attacking, mods applied before allies spies
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ibujke Game profile

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Mar 1st 2011, 11:11:27

Eh, would be really nice to get how it works.

yourspal + min( sum(allyspals), yourspal)?

Marshal Game profile

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Mar 1st 2011, 23:05:57

own spies+govt bonus (if dict)+spy tech (if has any)+allies=spal?
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

ibujke Game profile

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Mar 2nd 2011, 9:25:49

...

So you're saying that land plays no role in calculating spal?

'+allies', that means if i have 2 allies i get +2 spal?

Seriously, I asked for a complete way to calculate, not "yeah, if you have allies its better"

qzjul Game profile

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Mar 2nd 2011, 9:29:28

SPAL implies spies per acre land

(spies*govtbonus*spytech + 1/4 allies)/land

vs your enemies

(spies*govtbonus*spytech + 1/4 allies)/land


keeping in mind that if attacker's land is much smaller than defenders land, then a penalty is applied to the attacker
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lincoln

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Mar 2nd 2011, 17:10:51

country A has 10k acres, 300k spies no enhancements
SPAL is 30

country B has 300k spies

should country A accept country B's intel offer?

300k spies plus 75k spies/10k acres=37.5 SPAL
so no the cost of the alliance outweighs the marginal benefit
particularly in express where the # of spy ops is so low

trife the formula you mentioned was the formula for earth2025 according to the explanation of intel alliances on that site
as part of the netter philosophy of this site, intel alliances were diminished

in express
i do not believe there are any circumstances under which joining an intel alliance with someone your own size are justified

and that comes from the guy who runs more spy ops than any other current player by far


Edited By: lincoln on Mar 2nd 2011, 17:23:41
See Original Post
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Rick Game profile

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Mar 14th 2011, 21:45:48

I love SPAL.

paulie Game profile

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Mar 25th 2011, 19:00:58

just remember unbuilt land weakens your spal.. if in a tight fight drop the unused land and u will notice your spals better.

my humble opinon only
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Rockman Game profile

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Mar 25th 2011, 20:42:25

Originally posted by paulie:
just remember unbuilt land weakens your spal.. if in a tight fight drop the unused land and u will notice your spals better.

my humble opinon only


Unbuilt land has the same effect on your SPAL as built land does.

paulie Game profile

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Mar 26th 2011, 9:56:10

Unbuilt land has the same effect on your SPAL as built land does.

AND YOUR POINT IS?
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Marshal Game profile

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Mar 26th 2011, 21:29:08

land built vs land un-built has no difference to spal.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

paulie Game profile

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Mar 27th 2011, 11:07:45

difference built, or unbuilt maybe not. but if im in a scrap with someone and having a difficult time, i drop excess land, and get thru the majority of the time.. other wise my failure rate is grater
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Marshal Game profile

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Mar 27th 2011, 20:22:33

less land = better spal
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

Rockman Game profile

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Mar 28th 2011, 0:55:35

If you're in a scrap with someone you need a better economy, not a better SPAL. Even if all you do is spy ops, you still need an economy to get military to defend your country.

And my point was that you said "unbuilt land weakens your SPAL" when there was no reason to specify unbuilt land, because unbuilt land and built land have the SAME EFFECT on your SPAL.

paulie Game profile

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Mar 28th 2011, 5:53:42

whatever!
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