Haha. This spawned from a comment that i made that no elders warleaders are considered in top 10 warleaders all time, and no one ever mentions elders in pound for pound warclans.

But we are also the only clan to tk laf three times and live to talk about it. We're also the only warclan with an 8 set winning streak....ever.

I was in RAGE as a warleader when WoG joined. Diety at the time was a better warleader than I, but that was the very beginning of analytics being a part of war, and he fell off as new more math heady and observation friendly leaders took control.

I was there for both and would take elders on a flip fone in a hurricane member to member against them or any other tag ever. It's legit not close in terms of beating larger clans on a nw scale. Talking about the only clan with 150m nw comebacks and its happened now 4 times...