Paladin - Allow me to redact and rephrase. Perhaps snawdog would be better off asking why you, of all people, are not defending PDM?

TAN - I am basing my perception of you only on my dealings with you. We never get anywhere. Same with Detmer. You guys try to have everything both ways, and negotiation doesn't work that way. Both sides need to see a benefit to agree to something. I wasn't talking about anything that went down with you and llaar, I said we are supposed to be long time natural allies because that's how the senior leadership at NA mostly views PDM, but PDM still fluffs on us with the "not a topfeed" hits.