Would still love to see a "true" FFA

ICe Man

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Apr 27th 2010, 23:17:54

Please? Any chance of this happening?

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Fuzzy Logic

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Apr 28th 2010, 0:26:24

define true FFA, wouldn't that be primary with no allies at all?

Pangaea

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Apr 28th 2010, 0:31:11

i believe he means a server where you have no limit on the number of countries you can run...

I would say no, just because one player with a lot of time can DOMINATE everyone :p
or use pyramid schemes to get to the top....

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ICe Man

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Apr 28th 2010, 1:12:57

Not really? Lots of us old multie runners just want like 100ish :P

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AoS

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Apr 28th 2010, 4:03:48

Anybody that has the time or ability to run 100 countries needs a SEVERE infusion of life.

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Apr 28th 2010, 4:53:41

AOS NEEDS MOAR LYFE

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Apr 28th 2010, 14:50:15

LaE would have 4900 countries tagged =P

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ICe Man

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Apr 28th 2010, 19:49:42

4900? Maybe. 3k possibly.

The 2k untags however... ;)

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MorTcuS

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Apr 29th 2010, 1:10:32

I could probly play in the 500 unless theres no limit then i'd run 1001 to say i ran more than 1k.

This would requiere bandwidth though lol.

edit : any chance to atleast increase the country number? From 15 to 20? 50? XD

Edited By: MorTcuS on Apr 29th 2010, 1:11:21

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ICe Man

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Apr 29th 2010, 6:02:41

I would *love* to see 50.

Why was the "15" limit in place? Bandwidth? Or just because it was 15 at one time.

15 actually makes no sense. As 16 or 32 would make more sense (allying)

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Marshal

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Apr 29th 2010, 18:30:18

yea 15 countries is bit difficult to get allied fully.

some nbker ran all his countries by hand at mehul's 15 countries ffa and he had 100ish countries.

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Apr 30th 2010, 16:49:55

We picked 15 to test bandwidth.... we could consider upping it to 16 for setting up ally rings, I'd be open to that for sure.

FFA takes up a big chunk of bandwidth, I think more than all the other servers combined, so I'll let qz comment on that a bit more since he has the most up-to-date numbers.

but while I'm on the thread, I would say that the FFA "experiment" was a success, and the server will continue to be around indefinitely.

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Marshal

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Apr 30th 2010, 19:45:15

for res allies would need 15 or 18 countries so 18 would be better than 16.

qzjul

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Apr 30th 2010, 21:05:32

research allies work very nicely in 4's though, so 16 would be perfect

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qzjul

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Apr 30th 2010, 21:11:52

FFA seems to generate about 4x as much bandwidth per user as Alliance does.... and is 36% of the bandwidth atm... so not quite more than all of them combined, but double the next biggest (alliance) anyway.

If we increased this by 2/3... it'd probably be sustainable... but the other question is, would we lose any users over that, some of the more casual FFAers...

Incidentally it seems like FFA players spend about half the time on a given page compared to any other server heh....

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MorTcuS

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Apr 30th 2010, 21:18:21

Doesnt FFA generate more ad revenue too?

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qzjul

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Apr 30th 2010, 21:50:07

it should probably yea

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MorTcuS

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Apr 30th 2010, 22:19:45

Does more countries = more revenue ? Would that compensate for more bandwidth usage?

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Pangaea

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May 1st 2010, 4:18:24

more countries does not equal more revenue. revenue is generated per player, not per country they own.

again, I'll present the idea i brought forward for a few other server type ideas.... we could consider doing a shorter, quicker FFA style game once or twice a year... champions league kind of stuff, where there is a higher limit and higher turn rate or something.

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qzjul

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May 1st 2010, 4:34:13

The problem with bandwidth usage is that it's not easily scalable... we can't just "get more" too easily... price point goes up quite fast etc

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ICe Man

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May 4th 2010, 14:36:18

So bump limit up to 36 (sounds fair).

And it wouldn't be *that* big of a leap aswell.

Just a thought, keep us posted...

btw, I'm sending out ICQ's, AIM's, MSN's, FB, calls, etc to everyone trying to get people to play.

I'm recruiting hardcore for FFA.

Would love to see us back to 40k+ logins =)

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Pangaea

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May 4th 2010, 16:42:25

I would consider moving from 15 to 16 to better facilitate pacts between a player's countries, but i think you're missing what qz is saying, ice man...

a major increase in the country limit for the FFA server is just not feasible given our current revenue model and player base.

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ICe Man

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May 5th 2010, 14:03:50

Thats fine -- I'm kinda speaking down the road, persay.

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