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The_Hawk

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Dec 10th 2019, 16:27:20

Military strat seems to not give any benefit with this new code.

Similar builds give same returns with or without the tech.
Originally posted by Syko_Killa:
Qzjul tells me these reports are all psychological and no mods are abusing privaleges.

Originally posted by Raz:
I have left ICD, and any clan Hawk joins moving forward will have me as a suicider if/when I play.

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Gerdler

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Dec 11th 2019, 13:31:52

This is not correct. Military strategy works the same way as it used to. The difference is that Pang put in a flat cap to gains that MStrat cant budge, but that is only in effect for a certain subset of close NW, landthin to landfat attacks.

So for 95% of all grabs MStrat still has the same effect.

I did tell Pang that this would lower the effectiveness of MStrat and the tyr/dict govts in some situations but Pang choose to not listen to me and implement it his way regardless:

Originally posted by Gerdler:

I know I have written heaps about this before but my suggestion IMO still makes more sense and it is that instead of using 10% land as the max(which reduces the effectiveness of tyr govt, NW matching and MStrat for no reason) it should be that if the target acreage is larger than your own, you grab what you would have grabbed if the country was exactly your acreage (or 80% your acreage or whatever)
This would make a smaller dent against suiciders on alliance servers, but it makes sense to not negate these key concepts (MStrat, govt, NW matching). And I dont think this is enough by itself regardless assuming clan-GDI is going to look like the proposal currently is.

Originally posted by Gerdler:
if its just a hard limit to your grabbing returns then DR will still apply normally for all hits.

Originally posted by Gerdler:

Attack_Constant*MStrat*Govt_Mod*NW_Mod*Min(Targets_Resource,Attackers_Resource)


Imo something like this should be done rather than a 10% cap.

Edited By: Gerdler on Dec 11th 2019, 14:03:23

Gerdler

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Dec 11th 2019, 13:36:23

This also means that on some attacks your SS will gain as much as your PS. Now I don't think that is good but its what we got.

The_Hawk

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Dec 11th 2019, 15:08:24

Currently at matched land and net mil strat shows no gain compared to not having it. I'll test it when attacking lower targets.
Originally posted by Syko_Killa:
Qzjul tells me these reports are all psychological and no mods are abusing privaleges.

Originally posted by Raz:
I have left ICD, and any clan Hawk joins moving forward will have me as a suicider if/when I play.

Gerdler

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Dec 11th 2019, 15:37:03

I already did:

SS Dec 11, 13:24 5 (#74) 3 (#72) 200 A
SS Dec 11, 13:26 5 (#74) 4 (#73) 278 A



74 was 30k acres(252cs rest farms) 32m NW on each hit. but with 139.6% MStrat on second hit. Targets were both 180cs 9820 farms and 6.8m NW.

The_Hawk

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Dec 11th 2019, 16:31:37

So for similar nets and land there is no difference.

I did a 12k hitting a 6k and saw a 40 acre difference when I did it again.
Originally posted by Syko_Killa:
Qzjul tells me these reports are all psychological and no mods are abusing privaleges.

Originally posted by Raz:
I have left ICD, and any clan Hawk joins moving forward will have me as a suicider if/when I play.