None of us in the NA civil war expected everyone to get the message immediately that we are part of NA. A few grabs was to be expected. Farming is uncalled for though, and anyone would expect that you would accept *at a minimum* 1:1 retals. Yes, our tags can retal, and yes we will. SOL, Evo and LaF have all hit us quite a bit. We might take a while to retal all of those hits. I have begun already. Warlorde was clearly in the right to AB the SOL idiot who wouldn't accept 1:1 retals. Ford will be right to farm others. As has been mentioned, SoF ponied right up with some reps even though they were the first offender, when their clearly hadn't been enough time for the word to get out. Now, the word is out, and you deserve whatever you get retal-wise.

Wow, you really are the worst FA on the server.

Does NA have a HFA? I'd like to talk to someone who actually knows how to read a pact, can correctly count up to 2, and who is respectful enough not to accuse DPs of stupid fluff on AT.

Thanks!

Evo hasn't farmed either of NA's new 'war' tags. From what I can see, only one Evo made a single LG on 2 VicDies countries.

Okay, I apologize, Evo has not farmed one of the tags. I retract and amend.

PS - http://www.youtube.com/...YqaB8&feature=related

If you want to take retals on EVO countries you better clear it with an EVO FA first, as our pact currently prevents you from taking any retals.

So 2 hits, one on each country, is considered farming now?

I already conceded your point. TBH, I posted that based on a member's claim that he had been farmed by Evo w/o reading the news. There is an AWFUL LOT of news to sort through. LaF, SOF and SOL I can account for based on my own news without even looking at anyone else's.

I approve of FA on AT.

Evo didnt farm us. And Sof has amended the problem.

While SoL and Laf i can not say

Honestly, this message needed to go to too many people to not put it on AT.

Lol at LAF. You farm and get retalled. Accept the retals. Instead they go and RoR.


A Retal on a Retal

Nov 21/10 1:04:19 AM PS I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) 928 A (+68 A)

The Retals owed (far less than the number owing)

Nov 21/10 12:14:54 AM SS Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) 819 A (+311 A)
Nov 21/10 12:13:46 AM SS Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) 1085 A (+514 A)
Nov 21/10 12:13:26 AM SS Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) 1155 A (+548 A)
Nov 21/10 12:13:09 AM SS Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) 1232 A (+585 A)


5 hits and 1 def held = fluff load of retals

Nov 20/10 1:49:10 PM SS I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) Defence Held
Nov 20/10 1:48:54 PM SS I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) 86 A (+27 A)
Nov 20/10 1:47:54 PM SS I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) 119 A (+56 A)
Nov 20/10 1:47:47 PM SS I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) 121 A (+58 A)
Nov 20/10 1:47:41 PM SS I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) 175 A (+149 A)
Nov 20/10 1:46:53 PM SS I R WoG SB (#837) (LaFizWIN) Newly Acquired (#873) (THUNDEAD) 180 A (+152 A)

Not doing FA.

Just showing to the public how out of place LAF is. A tip, hit once and then they can only retal once. Hit 5 times and 1+2+3+4+5= 15 retals. He takes 4 retals and you go fluff in your pants and RoR.

No wonder this game is fluffed. Farm a country that is able to retal. And accept the f()cken retals when they come your way. If you dont want retals to come your way, hit a tag that is unable to break you, OR! hit once then only 1 retal will be returned.

Well, I guess I will just have to take the rest of the retals I owe him.

ummm

no one from NA contacted any of LaF's FRs, and none of them checked AT I guess, so the DB wasn't updated and the tags were on neutral. You were seen as being on the same level as untagged to the LaF members.

I updated it a few minutes ago after Vic brought it to my attention. Based on knowing the member who ROR'ed, I don't think he's doing it on purpose to try and cause problems. That seems more like what NA is doing in this situation based on their ingame and out of game actions. I'm disappointed that the first response from NA was to retal for a lot of land and complain on AT about LaF and our policies before even attempting to contact our FR department. Regardless of the hits being made, before retalling for ridiculous acreage gains, you should have contacted LaF's FRs first. That's a courtesy you normally extend to pacted alliances in these types of circumstances where several ~60-100a grabs are going to be retalled by several ~1000+ grabs.

So in short, you guys put yourselves in this situation. If you came to LaF ahead of time with the tags, we'd have gladly updated both tags in our database and set them to DNH.

my guess is, insteada posting on AT about the tags, it'd been better to talk to each clans FA's about it... this probly wouldn't be an issue if you guys woulda done that.

So it's na's fault for retalling 1:1?

Funniest thing I have read in a long time.

Why is it an issue at all. So accept the retals and put them on DNH.

Cause have retalled 1:1 as ford said. Which is 100% legit!

probly woulda stopped the countries from being hit in the first place, though retals are not a subject I care for :-P I've done FA work too much to care for that :-P

Should stopped the hits. But thats not what happened stop the hits. Took the retals we are entitled to. And people are complaining.

Put on DNH and get over it and accept the retals you are owed. Your fault for farming. As us getting hit is our fault for not giving bigger notice.

Only difference is, you all now know. And those countries farmed are actually able to retal.

splitting into two clans outside of NA was a bad choice... seperating the fighters into two differnt divisions/squads/whatever your clan uses.. posting the oposing countries in each respective area, and just fighting like that, woulda

1. saved people time with trying to put two fictious clans that wouldn't be there later.

2. saved you time explaining that you were gonna make two clans, put them on dnh, blah blah blah...

3. the hits woulda probly happened, but woulda been delt with better then right now.. no RoR's probly woulda been made..

4. will be back cause I'ma get me a drink.

Sorry for assuming people in this game had intelligence greater than a 6 year old

well, we are playing a text game... that has the easiest fundamentals of playing... literally a 6 year old could play this game...

Again, I didn't even take 1:1 retals.

Now I will, on #837, since his RoR message was "Try it again. :)"

Ford I think he meant the comments on AT instead of saying something to a laffer. On a side note they should make me some sorta high rank since I at least read AT :P

btw, I made mention of the Evo hit on me in my post to let us war in peace...I had thought that others in my alliance would've read the part where Slagpit had said..."You are on DNH now" and been done with it.

Btw the HFA is currently in a long work schedule while my fellow associate attends her father's funeral so I have been majorly unvailable and being a single father of 2 sons, I don't like to spend too much of my free time that I actually get mucking around on Alliance affairs. there have been times during this school year that I haven't even seen my sons in 2 or 3 days due to my work. Sorry I can't be here 24/7 like I was when I didn't have a job, but I'd take this situation over that one any day.