First, don't call me names as I'm not offending you. Alternatively, go call your mother an idiot or do it to yourself in the mirror.

Then, the situation is very simple. Don't attack me if you can't defend yourself as I will attack you back. Period.

Also, few different views than yours below

"I wouldn't be fighting with a demo if that were the case. " You were sucked into it the last 2 hours of the game.

"You do not hit people and expect them not to retaliate." I've taken retaliation from reasonably strong players, accept it (reluctantly and will keep on monitoring them to see if I can hit them again) and move on. Two of them last set.

"To RoR shows your colors." I wouldn't assume RoR as negative like you do. Then countries playing the GDI 1 to 1 rule have the same colors. A bottom feed on a country 3 times smaller, that guy goes all jets and gets back 5 times the land you grabbed. And expects you to do nothing about it ? It's as a game as an RoR.

"I also think you need to recount the spy ops and who really won." I did count them, a little weakensss of mine...This includes the last 25 all failed ops you tried first to steal money (10) then to spy on me. It's good you gave up, by then I was at 1.8m spies vs your 130k (and dropping).....I was tempted to send you my country stats but didn't want to bully you as we had no message exchange. Regarding who really won, I think nobody wins in these fights. Certainly you didn't.

"You were, or would not have lost and/or burned through over $100m of $300m to defend." It did cost me, quite a bit (you bought my 600k tanks on the market, BTW - so you gave me most of the money I spent). Although you might think it, I wasn't going to win this, maximum could have made ~3rd. But the for me arriving 1st or 10th or 70th has to happen in the right manner, ie. I will attack back the ones whom I think shouldn't have attacked me. And if it cost me, so be it. It's a matter of principle. Staying with your logic, your first attack might have already costed me a rank.

"if you pass me on the highway and later slow down, then that means I have the right to run over your ass....and I am the kind of person that would do it." Sure, but if I'm in a Ferrari and with your Dodge minivan you go all out to pass me, don't be surpised if when I press the accelerator a tiny bit you're left in my dust coffing.

"Your ignorancy about the game may have cost you a win since you think 1:1 isn't proper. You spent hundreds of millions of dollars on a guy that wasn't playing the game." 1:1 is fine unless you go suicidal. Also, if you're not playing the game why you then want to ruin mine ? I might not take it well.

This explains it, with one turn left you can only be the same NW to attack back

The "half dozen people here saying thay you are the idiot" are in your twisted mind not in any post on this thread. Not even one, actually.

Whereas you do have a vote for being a clearly spelled and plain idiot, mine.

I repeat so you maybe understand, you're an idiot

Thank you

[quote poster=drkprinc; 37226; 675904][quote poster=Ti annichilisco; 37226; 675899]

No, he tapped me in the last 4 minutes of the set. BTW, something strange, I couldn't hit him back as kept on getting a message "the country [you're trying to spy on and then attack] is too large", despite us being almost the same NW.

What do you mean I'm shady enough ? Don't like your words, and tell what have I have ever done less than correct [/quote]

Couple tournament sets I hit you, you didn't have power to retal you pull out missiles that's shady enough for me to put you on a shady list ;) [/quote]

Ah, ok. I take that "shady" without problems. If you hit me, I'll do all I can to retaliate.
If what you define "shady" has such a standard, I think 90% of the players around you are shady.
They're all around you......what a world.......
;-)

Shukt, so if I read you formula correct, as I had ~30 turns left (is it the set turns or my personal turns ?) its ~1 +1.05. Is that 5% ? If yes, I don't think it's an addition otherwise you can be double or half the size and still hit. Then, I see that if you have only 5 turns left the range narrows tremendously, to 1.37 (I assume %). Still, we were maybe 10% NW apart. Let me understand your formula better :-)

No, he tapped me in the last 4 minutes of the set. BTW, something strange, I couldn't hit him back as kept on getting a message "the country [you're trying to spy on and then attack] is too large", despite us being almost the same NW.

What do you mean I'm shady enough ? Don't like your words, and tell what have I have ever done less than correct

If you were the one playing as Crimson, then what drkprinc writes hold true. Don't retaliate on me adding 7m jets leaving yourself 300k turrets. I might not like it, which I didn't.

I know you will not like the RoR, but you're not in a position to win the fight.

you an idiot....

If you retaliate on me, you better have defense to avoid a RoR. This set I had one that went all jets to retaliate. I could tap him as many times as I wanted and I did. Was a shame that the SDI tech available for sale ran out when I was at 60% otherwise he would have done asolutely nothing to me. He falied 55 spy ops out of 60....

And yes, I will never stop this tactic. I prefer to finish 6th instead of 3rd in one set as in the end only way of getting a better ranking is not to be retaliated by players who can't hold their defense hoping I won't break GDI.

This is the way I see it.

BTW, not true I do it all the times, on tournament I don't as is not worth it for what I can see and on the last set on Primary nothing happened.

Where you the one playing as Democracy of Crimson (#1) ? Cheers

If anybody knows who was X (#66), let me know

I know but is too easy to just delete them and move on, they should give their gains back. Otherwise the countries who got hit by the cheaters are ultimately penalized

Get them online again, i need to take back my 143 acres from the two cheaters.

There are currently 67 countries in game B the Tournament server.

9 Ti annichilisco (#22) 6596 $1,229,348 RG
10 Nucky Thompson (#40) 5262 $1,203,730 FG
18 420 Dab Squad (#41) 5083 $970,542 FG

I definitely would hit him back. On this server GDI doesn't have the 1 hit limit. So jungle rules apply. If he's gone all jets most likely your NW is higher, so you should be able to outrun him. However, few obvious hints drkprinc wrote. Get rid of his missiles, check troops and tanks difference as I've had idiots damaging me with AB's, see what he can do with his money. Then as you write outdistance him. I tell them I go back to my land gain after his retal and stop. Then if they want a war so be it.

BTW, there's no 72 hour rules apart from a made up one people might not care or know about.

Next time see if you can change the names a little bit. It wasn't much fun to see an invasion of equal names......

At one point I saw 3 in a row, ranked 8 - 9 - 10 ....... ;-)

Bought 2m bushels at 33 and 35 between last night and the day before. Now I see 38, still ok. Better this than spend the money on turrets at 150-160-170, at one point all those commies up there will need the money and prices will return more reasonable (I hope). Last set at this stage we were buying turrets at 99....

But once you know that by now I attach very low consideration to what these two "players" write, say 3 out of 100, you'll realize that these arguments are just a bit of a diversion from normal. I do need my post bonuses and so might wind up few a bit whilst KoHeartsGPA and mrford clearly have an "obsessive need to post" disease.....

Regarding the attacks approach, take note of your view

;-)

And you even more

Ok, you are a lost case

?? Antoher "mrford" sarcasm ??

I'm still curious, what are the flaws to h2orich approach if the post wasn't for me ? Let's see if you pick the same extras as mine...

It's not that obvious that "I won" in this thread means "I arrived first in the last set". And then what does the fact that he won means for the argument ?

Yes Sir, you do write like the crazy one, I'm afraid....

For what we read most crazy people don't realize they're crazy, BTW

I don't mind. Something that makes sense though, not your usual farnetications

Eh eh, if you say so.....

You're simply out of your mind, not much point arguing

Agreed, you can't be fixed. Although, looking at your countries stats, maybe repair and improve a bit yes, it can be done even with you

You must be joking, right ?

1.Just to give you one example, last set Nova was adding defenses whilst I attacked him. Grab failed. What is spy and math gonig to do there ? What an idiot.....

3 grabs failed in a row, when was that, the first time I ever played maybe ? you should check stats before wasting everybody time writing things like this

Am glad you can laugh, this is what the game is about in the end.....

Then you might know the say that goes like "laughs abound on the mouth of the, let's write, less smart"

Keep on being one, dear

Well, let me write few flaws of your action.

1. 4 turns. Unless you run with superhigh spies/NW ratio you'll fail some of the ops. So you're not talking 4 turns, you're talking more, say ~6/7.
2. If you bottom feed as most players I see do some of the allies you won't be able to spy on because of humanitarian rule
3.Of the 83 players I spied on last set, less than 10% had very little tanks, and that was mostly at the start. When you write nobody sends tanks out, are you playing another game ? Almost everybody sends tanks out, they provide the buffer when you don't have enough jets. Say in 1 attack out of 3, my guess. Last set I won 4 attacks by excluding targets tanks thanks to a military spy. These are some of the best attacks gain you can make.
3a.I have a large 540 lines excel spreadsheet to prove it, I agree you must save your spy ops. If you know of any online tool that stores them, let me know.

The one good point you have is that in some cases with my approach I might send a large force excess. In case of a large attack, is possibly worth spending the extra 2 turns. Say to save sending a million jets extra....

There's few more flaws in your approach, but will keep them for now.

91%, 39 out of 43 last set. Overall 95%. you ought to check before writing.

Are you running Irrational Exuberance (#90) ? That's the only one I can see had fights with 3 other. If you are, don't worry, won't send you missiles even if you deserve few.

Regarding the spy ops, you're another one who doesn't understand. What I wrote was, in simpler terms:

If every time you want to attack a player you take an alliance spy, see who are his two allies, then take a spy ops on the two allies. You've already wasted two extra turns (the alliance spy is important so not a waste of turn). On top of that, most players will have tanks and troops and will have done attacks, so then you also need to take a military spy to see how many of them are at home. So you've wasted/invested other 2 turns. It makes 4 turns.

Much better to check the defensive allies NW and take an estimated guess at how much defense % to add.

I don't pretend to be right, it's my point of view though.

Oh yes, too complex for you. It means

1.you're an idiot
2.You're a stupid harasser
3.You're on the wrong server discussion. You said many times you don't play on primary, yet you write here

So let's ignore you and move on. hope is easy enough for you now, bye bye

Coming from an idiot who is also a stupid harasser on the wrong server talk, I think we can archive this message as trash and move on

This was your answer to my first nice message, if you want to tell a story tell if properly


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LISTEN YOU IDIOT. LEARN HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME AND STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF. I SPIED ON YOU BECAUSE I TOOK A RETAL ON YOUR ALLY. ANOTHER IDIOT WHO HIT ME AND I WAS ABLE TO RETAL BACK.

DON'T EVER BOTHER ME AGAIN. GO WASTE 3RD TIER PLAYERS TIME LIKE KOH, BUT DON'T EVER, AND I MEAN EVER, F'ING BOTHER ME AGAIN YOU RAT TRASH N00B. I REALLY HATE N00BS.

This was painful, partifularly so many days after the attack. He built for it and left hmiself with very little defenses. I went to check previous rounds and he always retaliate, didn't know that. But then you're missing the other 18 succesful attacks I did without retaliation

But you'll see, at the right time (for me)

But then you're getting better. Went to check in the previous rounds and you never did this well (up to now), I guess a little bit of competition is doing you well. Or is the scare that is working ?

Anyway, you're still well below me in ranking, it's alsmost the full round now, master of the game.

Eh eh, if it was me I would just retaliate and kill each single hit, am avoiding it this round....

I'm really starting to think I waste my time with you. "where you finish that matters". So if you end up 1st after having been 23rd the all round or if you finish 1st after having been 1st the all round is the same for you ? Genius

Wouldn't be so sure if I was you.......I told you to get ready, not that I was going to hit you after 1 hour, genius.

Gosh, are you a 13 years old child or something like that ?

A raimbow is on your head then, as I'm ~10th and you're ~23rd, you should convert to improve.....

Get ready, idiot and loser

Which rainbow ? You can't even look at the stats, I'm not going to destroy the 4.000+ buildings I got from the attacks....

And you even just spied on me 3.4 hours ago ? I was going to look at your country anyway, a 23rd 8.6m NW that spies on a 9th with 10.3m NW is really calling for a landgrab.

Let me know if you want the punches exchange in this round or next one. This is irrespective of what I just wrote above

i'm actually getting tired of you offending with no reason but the fact that you're an idiot. If you think you're so good tell me the name of your country and next set I'll punch it as if it was your face and you can try the same. Loser

Yes I often play on express too, want to join ?

And with you, the self elected master of the game....

And you're an idiot

Vic, you're much nicer on ingame chat. Based on this I'll re-think my promise of stopping hitting you with your lousy defense, 1.6m turrets and 5m jets at that time. I can break you with PS not once but twice every day, and as I'm larger at one point will have enough defense that even with your suicidal strech you can't retaliate.

See where is the nonsense, and remember I'm still upset about your luck with me sending +12% offense getting the 1% event of failing the attack