these are as a Demo:
on express the tech auto buy = 1000 -- PM = 35 for bushels

the table below simply shows equivalency in converting stock at end of reset

Bushels Tech
35 1000
40 1143
45 1286
50 1429
55 1571 -- if bushels are selling at $55 and you can buy tech @ or under $1,571 buy tech
60 1714
65 1857
70 2000
75 2143
80 2286
85 2429
90 2571
95 2714
100 2857

for other servers where the auto buy is set @ 500

Bushels Tech
35 500
40 571
45 643
50 714
55 786
60 857
65 929 -- bushels are at 65 and tech is available @ or under $929 buy tech
70 1000
75 1071
80 1143
85 1214
90 1286
95 1357
100 1429

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mFrost

so if bushels are selling for 50 I should be selling tech higher than 1429?

If bushels are at 50 you should stock tech to resell on auto($1000) only if tech is at or below 1429

I'm not entirely sure that I agree with this.

You can place all your bushels on market, whereas you'd have to use several turns to place equivalent stocked tech on market.
Or @ the end of the set, you can sell all your bushels instantly on pm, you can't do that with tech.

Good point Cellphi.

#idwtbywahrn

hmm

you are correct... basically you are making less per unit of tech than a farmer selling at $50 if you are selling your tech at or under $1429

it works the other way too if the lowest unit of tech is priced at 1429, then techers are making more per unit unless food is selling at or above $50.

this is assuming a production of 1000 bushels for every 35 points of tech

1000 units * $35 = $35,000 .. bushels
35 units * $1000 = $35,000 .. tech

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1000 units * $50 = $50,000
35 units * 1429 = $50,015

mFrost

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thanx DrunK you are correct this more about what to stock based on price v destock price.

@ celphi ... you are not taking into account the benefit tech adds to the country throughout the reset, especially if it is income or production type tech. when de-stocking the end of reset turns may or may not be taken depending on just how beneficial those are.

5-6 turns of selling to the auto-buy pretty much dumps most of the tech, granted you have to be active enough to make the 5 or so sales on the last day. in most cases you should be dumping tech and converting it anyway at the end of the reset.

1000 points of tech = 2000 points of networth on the auto buy = $1,000,000 as a non MBR tanks @ 484 = 2066 tanks *2 = 4,132 networth or an extra 2,132 points of net for every 1000 points of tech sold. .. this just gets better for DMBR and TMBR. what are you using this tech for at the end of reset?

mFrost

@Frost
My suggestion is to buy bushels over tech to stock. It's an interesting idea you have, but from the middle to the end of the set my bus/res is max'd so stocking more tech doesn't help at all. I'd rather buy bushels for stock which usually sell higher at the end of the set.

I also don't know if DMBR or TMBR is practical on EXPRESS. I've experimented with several different methods to no avail.
The main reason why it fails is because the two more profitable units : troops & tanks do not sell as much as they do on other servers. Why? Because of GDI.

@ celphi, for the most part with prices the way they are you would be correct, however if at the end of reset i see bushels at 60 and tech selling at $1100 I'm buyin tech , because $ recognize this is similar to buying bushels @ $40

with 500 mil to spend

500,000,000 / 60 = 8,333,333 bushels * 35 = 291,666,655 converted on the PM
500,000,000 / 1100 = 454,545 points

now the upside of express is you can sell 44.9% of tech on hand and goods hit the market in 45 minutes. So in 4 auto sales or last 3 hours of the reset I cans sell 90% of my tech on hand:
On Hand -- Sell
454,545 -- 204,541
250,004 -- 112,499
137,505 -- 61,876
75,629 -- 34,032
Total: 412,948 sold * 1000 = 412,948,000 - 291,666,655 = 121,281,345

I think the 120 mil extra makes it worth my time to buy tech

Caveat:
... Unless of course my country needs this tech to produce 10 mil per turn for the last 45 turns of the reset. i.e. selling the tech would yield less than just taking normal turns. but then a country big enough to pull that off probably spent most of their income on tech anyway...

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To answer Riddler's question more accurately, from a production standpoint

where 1000 acres produce 12,500 bushels as a farmer or as a techer 300 points of tech it would look like this for equivalency:

35 -- 1458
40 -- 1667
45 -- 1875
50 -- 2080 -- if bushels are selling at $50 then tech should sell for $2080 minimum, otherwise farmers are making more per turn
55 -- 2292
60 -- 2500
65 -- 2708
70 -- 2917
75 -- 3125 -- if tech is selling @ or above $3125, farmers would need to sell food @ 75 to keep up
80 -- 3333
85 -- 3542
90 -- 3750
95 -- 3958
100 -- 4167

so looking at the above and the current express market where tech is currently selling at $3100 and food is @ $37, techers are making double the income of a farmer for every turn taken... of course this could flip around at end of reset where food is at $60 and tech is at $1,250, then farmers are making double.

@celphi

if you keep your biz res maxed lets say 500k each ... you can buy another 450K of tech split between biz res and sell the 450K points in one turn at the end. Because your tech is already at max you literally would lose minimal income on your last 3-4 turns...

mFrost

The point at which stocking [ tech ] over [ bushels ] is better, you shouldn't be stocking anymore.

this thread has too many numbers

Another issue I have with your math above is that:

1.) You're assuming if I spend $500 mil on bushels @$60 that I'm unable to sell it for > $35 on PM.
2.) You're also assuming that there's $500 mil worth of $1100 tech, and there's not.

I don't even bother selling my tech under 1300, if I do, it's at the 1000 autobuy. Chances are, if you're selling tech that low, you can't afford to risk having your tech going unbought during the final hours of the game.

the numbers may or may not be useful to you, I figure they may be useful to someone. For those it is useful, you are welcome, for those where the numbers are not useful, then they probably were not meant for you anyway ;)