What are the factors involved when calculating ghost acres while making a grab?

are there any formulas?
I know for sure that having unbuilt land causes your attacker to get less ghost acres
Being in ghost DR also causes your attack to get less ghost acres

What else?

networth and land matters too (for best gains those should be ~same) and govt matters too and milstrat tech matters, i've gotten as theo with 120-130% miltrat 400-800 ghost acres per grab and retallers have got ~same and also bigger total gains (mostly).

Too brief. I need something more detailed.

Something which I dont understand,
I notice early in the set ghost acres sucks even when networth matching.
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Later in the set, ghost acres becomes better while bottom feeding. Why?
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Does turns played play a part in capturing ghost acres?
Does having same building type play a part in capturing more ghost acres?
Does having unbuilt land yourself cause less captured ghost acres?
Does land difference results in different ghost acres captured(e.g a 3k grabbing 6k and a 9k grabbing 6k, would the ghost acres differ? I know for sure total land grabbed will be lesser for the 9k)

Are there any formula?

Is this answered somewhere else?

GH have probably changed since this post

known factors are: land built/unbuilt, nw (att & def) and land (att & def), dr (normal and c:c dr).

you forgot units sent

no idea if that is still factor or not.

I thought it was strictly units (over)sent?

I can't say for sure, but I thought I was pretty consistent in the %oversend throughout last week, but had similar results:

2015-04-02 17:10:50 PS BUTTLAND (#42) Nusantara (#78) 134A (221A)
2015-04-02 15:16:59 PS BUTTLAND (#42) Bloodrayne James Stoker (#29) 595A (726A)
2015-04-02 15:15:35 PS BUTTLAND (#42) Death RoLL (#17) 470A (632A)

Later:

2015-04-04 21:31:58 PS BUTTLAND (#42) zero (#71) 174A (454A)
2015-04-04 21:29:41 PS BUTTLAND (#42) Ochala (#67) 139A (320A)
2015-04-04 21:28:50 PS BUTTLAND (#42) Ehyodotca (#96) 191A (457A)

Like I said though, I could have been oversending more later in the week when I had more jets, but I usually try to keep it consistent.

if you have 5k acres on 10k acres country unbuilt your ghosties are less than if you had all 10k acres built.

wow, why is this brought up again.

I got the answer to my questions

1) Units sent affects GA (I forget the exact numbers, but sending at least 50k-100k units to grab someone that has 0 defence is better if you want the GA)
2) % of Buildings built on your opponent affects GA

Acres/20= units needed per ghost acre

Capped of course


Would just be best for the game if each formula was done up and posted some where for public use

ee-wiki? we have (or had) wiki mod.

not that all read ee-wiki or even forums (and stickied threads)

other place is ingame link (in warroom) but then again not all will read it.

Wiki is usually outdated

cause no1 keeps it updated.

this was helpful, thank you Marshall and others

does capture more in combat tech increase ghost acreage or only regular acreage?

if theo helps with ghost acres do military bases also help?

yur welcome.

milstrat helps but mil bases not.

dict gets most ghosties while tyr gets most base land.

cool

ok update report

this week in express I launched 54 PS as a dictator with all manner of variables including tech, land size differential,
nw differential, hitting up, hitting down, target built up, target not built up, my country built up my country less built up,
target in no dr, target in one and 2 dr, and then spent yesterday trying to find patterns in the data field.

I have to say that hitting a different target every two hours for three solid days ?was exhausting but it was going well until 5AM Saturday morning when I accidentally hit someone whom I had already tapped but forgot to cross off the target list((( and of course that was the guy with 9 missiles lined up in silos.

The results leave me with two questions. How can I maximize buildings grabbed per turn even if it reduces land grabbed per turn? and in my efforts to minimize ghost acreage I need to be sure not to bounce off. What are the odds of success of sending 1% more than need?

odds sending 1% over required is slightly better than sending req amount, sometimes you bounce even sending 10% oversent.

most ghosties you get if you and target are fully built.

bottomfeed is the way to go if someone is at your absolute lowest nw range you can get 2-3x the ghost acres to what the actual grab is, just make sure they are not jet heavy or else you will lose a huge chunk in a retal.

so a 10k person at 10m nw hitting a 5k person at 2.5m nw would get around 300-400 base acres then another 800-1200 ghost acres on top, < that is a best case scenario with max mil strat and 0 dr and 0 c:c dr (but because you are bottomfeeding good chance you can repeat this 2x more)

now if you are 10k and hit someone 10k with same nw you would get around 1500 acre base and around 750 ghost acres with the maximum units sent. but good chance they will retal you and the attack itself was not cheap, thus bottomfeeding is most feasible option.