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KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 11th 2014, 0:45:03

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Viceroy

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Mar 11th 2014, 2:48:17

I own #58. I do not own #66. Red X is already aware of this situation.

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lenshark

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Mar 11th 2014, 3:18:26

http://tpa.ignorelist.com/primary

https://gist.github.com/pneftali/9470488

h2orich

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Mar 11th 2014, 4:59:50

nice job lenshark...

would be good if you can do sorting on the columns(like from smallest to biggest) and maybe add in a column for nw/land

how often would this list be updated? are the countries extracted directly from eestats?

some of the figures dont tally with mine. ><

Edited By: h2orich on Mar 11th 2014, 6:18:59
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lenshark

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Mar 11th 2014, 7:39:04

yeah sorting will be integrated soon

i'm consuming ee ranks and news api and updates

ranks page is updated every ten minutes
while news is every minute.

h2orich

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Mar 11th 2014, 7:50:09

cool, reduce the column lengths too :P

Government can just be in letters
C for Commi
R for Rep
etc etc etc

earf

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Mar 11th 2014, 15:30:22

19.8 for DH makes no sense. 18 is 100% send, 19.8 is 10% oversend. if they sent 10% oversend they wont DH

it should be halflife regular = 20
halflife bounce = 18

you did 22 for oversend, which means 22/18 = 22% oversend. thats a lot

lenshark

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Mar 11th 2014, 18:41:52

haven't factored in dh yet in the calcs

so $_h = 22; yeah

just let me guys know which value for halflife to use and the one for dh
and i'll plug it in on the formula

earf

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Mar 11th 2014, 18:59:08

18. anything over 18 hours is more likely to be a success than a DH.

and 22 is still high for regular half-life i think, unless you really think people oversend by over 20% often? ever?

blid

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Mar 11th 2014, 19:19:02

So, is it correct that a DH on SS/PS adds DR (of <18 hours) to the target, but a DH on an AB/BR/GS does not and a missile doesn't add DR success or fail (but all other attacks do add DR if successful)?

Also, if the outgoing attacks remove DR, does that removed-DR-length also vary depending on how much they send? I guess it would but it doesn't seem like it needs to. Then again none of this variation from the base half-life really seems at all necessary.

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Xinhuan

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Mar 12th 2014, 2:58:36

Originally posted by blid:

Also, if the outgoing attacks remove DR, does that removed-DR-length also vary depending on how much they send? I guess it would but it doesn't seem like it needs to. Then again none of this variation from the base half-life really seems at all necessary.

It does, according to qz.

Serpentor

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Mar 12th 2014, 4:56:07

Too confusing to try and calculate it out. Unless eestats somehow figures it out, Imma just guesstimate my targets DR and hope for the best. What a terrible change to the server.

Usually easier is better. If you gotta do so much calculator work and spreadsheet filling in between running turns, it ceases to be a fun game, and becomes a chore. Nobody wants a frustrating unpaid 2nd job.

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cyref

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Mar 12th 2014, 5:53:47

Originally posted by Serpentor:

I couldn't agree more. Over the past couple of years I have begun playing the game more from my phone than from a pc, as the mobile version was improved over time. Seems to me this is a rather significant step backwards in that move toward mobile convenience. It's never been as easy to play from my phone; now the disadvantage seems much greater.

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Serpentor

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Mar 13th 2014, 4:21:41

yup. In this day and age, it's gotta move towards easier play via cell phone.

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silentwolf

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Mar 13th 2014, 6:47:39

damn fools.. why grab so early. :p

lenshark

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Mar 13th 2014, 14:55:52

*formula updated

halflife regular = 20
halflife bounce = 18

*added sorting
*removed negative dr

blid

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Mar 13th 2014, 15:39:11

Wow, this is a pretty fully functional country listing now, nice work

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

crest23

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Mar 13th 2014, 16:43:57

Move over eestats.com

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KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 13th 2014, 17:00:45

Originally posted by crest23:

Move over eestats.com

lenshark is taking over!

Great work!!!!

Killags

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Mar 14th 2014, 1:55:50

Oh well, I guess I'm kinda late one here, don't usually look at the Forums... We met in another game, I didn't know what name to take so I thought I'd rip him off :P Oh And I own #66 :p

h2orich

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Mar 14th 2014, 2:19:23

the sorting doesnt seem to work for me.
put background to black! :P and text to white or something. less strained to the eyes.

Cannon

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Mar 14th 2014, 2:48:07

Ya that's pretty much the only criticism I guess. Dark background and light text and the site is great!!

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 14th 2014, 2:59:00

You two want a peanut butter and jelly sandwich too???

:p

h2orich

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Mar 14th 2014, 3:21:51

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

You two want a peanut butter and jelly sandwich too???

:p

if you want to do something, do the best out of it! So I dont mind a sandwich too

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 14th 2014, 3:28:00

Originally posted by h2orich:

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

You two want a peanut butter and jelly sandwich too???

:p

if you want to do something, do the best out of it! So I dont mind a sandwich too

*makes H a sandwich*

:p

Cannon

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Mar 14th 2014, 4:08:56

Ummm.....I'm still hungry

h2orich

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Mar 14th 2014, 4:21:26

sorting works for me now. I appreciate your work!

but, can you put the land column first then networth column ? :P

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 14th 2014, 4:21:42

Originally posted by Cannon:

Ummm.....I'm still hungry

"Makes Cannon a sandwich*

Now go play out side boys, be back by dawn!

:p

lenshark

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Mar 14th 2014, 13:31:57

Updated with dark color scheme

h2o, i think the networth first and land next would be consistent with the nw/land column. why would you want to swap the two ?

blid

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Mar 14th 2014, 14:26:15

I think he just wants it to be as much like eestats as possible :P probably will want a country # column as well. As long as people are nitpicking, i think it's better if when you click something, news defaults to all set, not last 72 hours. I can't think of any reason I'd only want to see last 72 hours and I don't like having to pick the all-set dropdown every time. The last thing I thought I'd mention is that there's a key up top, showing different colors for countries that are in protection/dead/deleted etc, but every country looks the same color to me. Overall though, I think it's basically great how it is, and think we're all very lucky you made this and made it public for us

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

lenshark

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Mar 14th 2014, 15:04:34

no problem, i'm glad i could contribute to the game and to the community in a small way.

about the country number, i suppose it would be better to place it closer to the country name as possible

as with the attack time drop down, it is coming from the alliance server use-case, where in most of the time you'd want to see first if you've been hit the last 72 hours so you know you have pending retal/s to take. i'll wait for some more feedback before doing any change to the default time :)

i temporarily removed the countries that are dead, deleted and still in protection. messes up the sorting. i'll put them back in as an option tho, in just a while.

Ka Mac

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Mar 14th 2014, 15:09:44

Great work lenshark! :)

crest23

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Mar 14th 2014, 20:31:51

I like the all set time as well. The 72 hr thing doesn't make sense in Primary (still don't understand why it would make sense in Alliance too actually, unless you haven't logged in in days?.

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blid

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Mar 14th 2014, 20:41:55

Maybe because alliances have 72 hour retal windows?

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

crest23

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Mar 14th 2014, 20:48:30

Ah ha, gotcha.

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Xinhuan

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Mar 14th 2014, 20:48:59

Originally posted by blid:

Maybe because alliances have 72 hour retal windows?

All alliances use 48 hour retal windows now.

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 14th 2014, 21:05:17

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Originally posted by blid:

Maybe because alliances have 72 hour retal windows?

All alliances use 48 hour retal windows now.

That explains why LaF doesn't retal all my missile strikes :p

h2orich

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Mar 17th 2014, 6:44:48

this current set reminds me of high tech prices this set http://www.eestats.com/primary/oldmarket/416

lenshark

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Mar 19th 2014, 14:27:56

if someone can tell me the formula to compute the returns for SS, i can add a column to the table

LATC

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Mar 19th 2014, 17:47:40

Anyone noticing less land/grab from the new DR formula?

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Are you guys stupid or what?

blid

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Mar 19th 2014, 18:28:44

Yeah, bottom feed targets are in more DR than I like to hit. It's a bit early to say for certain though

Edited By: blid on Mar 19th 2014, 19:46:26
See Original Post

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Xinhuan

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:59:34

Originally posted by LATC:

Anyone noticing less land/grab from the new DR formula?

Because the estimated DR by lenshark is probably less than the actual DR. Lenshark used 20 hours halflife, which is roughly a 111% oversend. Most people probably oversend much higher than that, particularly if it is a blind or estimated grab.

blid

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Mar 20th 2014, 3:06:33

So, what, you'd prefer a 20.5 hr half-life? A 21 hr half-life? That's not going to actually change what the DRs appear as by anything noticeable. Btw, 10% over 18 is 19.8. So 20 gives a little cushion... 20 certainly accurately accounts for my attacks better than higher numbers would.

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Xinhuan

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Mar 20th 2014, 4:05:30

Not in my experience or grabs so far. 22 hours is probably a better estimate. Or set a textfield that a person can key in this halflife.

blid

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Mar 20th 2014, 4:11:40

22 hours? So you think on average people oversend by 22%? Hell, even if they did, the difference between 20-hr half-life and 22 hour half-life is not a serious distinction. When the 20 hr half-life is down to 0.5 DR, the 22 hour half-life is down to 0.55. No real difference...

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.