May 8th 2012, 13:19:19
Bigwiggle: Fair enough, but my point is that the most important part of this is whether they're trying to hide their identity. If I take my 16 and go suicide TKO, but I do it with them fully knowing it's me, perhaps it's suiciding, but ultimately, since I didn't hide my identity, they can find where I'm at in subsequent sets and come after me and any clan that would harbor me.
If I hide behind a name, let's say the name will be StEaL YoUr AcReS for argument's sake, and threaten everyone under a "New MEmber" name, and I don't even identify what my clan is, then there's no doubt that's suiciding.
What Ketchup is doing is going after 1 person, meaning a 16 v. 16 battle ultimately, and he's identified himself and his tag and he made a legitimate war declaration, even giving up the FS to make the battle more fair. So regardless of whether you want to put more caveats on the definition of a suicider, I think we can both agree that if RYL starts hitting netting clans next set given the circumstances, he is suiciding, and that Ketchup, given the circumstances here, is not.