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anoniem

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Feb 6th 2012, 23:53:00

btw if you are going to custom build i suggest:
buying both a SSD and a HDD

use the HDD to store your media
and use the SSD to run your OS and applications (or programs for you microsoft freaks)

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Requiem

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Feb 6th 2012, 23:56:04

I do like apple products however I don't want to pay what they think it is worth :p

Yeah SSD drives tend to be a bit pricey... I think I'll get like a 120 GB SSD and then when i need more I'll buy some cheaper HDD.

I wanted to keep the case cheap but if it builds up dust really bad I may look for something else. I've always had good luck with antec power supplies though.

Marco

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Feb 7th 2012, 0:02:33

What ano said.

SSD for OS and apps
HDD for everything else

HDD speed can't touch SSD, and eventually when the price drops you can upgrade your hds

anoniem

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Feb 7th 2012, 0:06:50

SSDs are great at accessing things such as loading your OS and applications, which is why i suggest getting a SSD and HDD, so you keep OS/Applications and Media files separately.

i picked up a 3.5" 1tb hdd for macbook pro last month for £87. hdds are so cheap - you'd be silly not to buy one at the same time (unless the ssd price cripples your finances)

i think the reading time of files (i.e. media) isn't that "much" better on an SSD compared to a HDD, though of course it depends on manufacturer etc.

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Requiem

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Feb 7th 2012, 0:07:54

If I only get at 120GB SSD it wont cripple the budget for the build.

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Feb 7th 2012, 0:24:23

I haven't been fallowing hardware much but why are HDD prices up right now?

andrewmmuller

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Feb 7th 2012, 0:34:32

Newegg.com is my favorite

anoniem

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Feb 7th 2012, 9:29:12

http://www.amazon.co.uk
or .com if you are US

http://www.ebuyer.com

cheap as chips

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ducko

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Feb 7th 2012, 9:42:13

bonus

Marshal

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Feb 7th 2012, 19:46:43

Originally posted by Requiem:

I haven't been fallowing hardware much but why are HDD prices up right now?

due floods in thailand where alot hdds are made.

nice setup you have in mind but you could consider getting core i5-2500k processor and psu might be bit underpowered.

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qzjul

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Feb 7th 2012, 19:57:51

Get a case without a power supply, and a non-antec power supply; corsair I'd go with.

As of blowing up the last server (before EE, Evo2025's server) with a bad power supply, and my gaming box shortly thereafter, I will never again buy a cheap power supply; save $30-50 and kill thousands of dollars...

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Feb 7th 2012, 20:00:46

also, SSD is good, but it depends how much you want to put on it; if it's just a gaming box, go with SSD, if you want something for permanent storage of pictures &etc (ie, home server) go with partitions of 2-3 standard HD's in RAID1

RAID1 is technically fine with 2, but I've had so many drives die (and another one in the server dying atm) that I'd recommend 3 just in case you don't get time to replace a dead drive *IMMEDIATELY* and then the next one fails....

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Feb 7th 2012, 20:15:58

http://www.hardware-revolution.com/computer-systems/

ninong

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Feb 8th 2012, 0:04:08

Originally posted by Requiem:

Let me know what you think... the only other thing i need is a hard drive... I'm thinking about going SSD.

Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/...aspx?item=N82E16814125353

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/...aspx?item=N82E16819115073

DVD: http://www.newegg.com/...aspx?item=N82E16827135204

Case: http://www.newegg.com/...aspx?item=N82E16811129065

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/...aspx?item=N82E16820231424

Mother Board: http://www.newegg.com/...aspx?item=N82E16813131783

you're good to go. if you want to save a little you could get the i5 2400 instead of the 2500, not much difference in speed

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Feb 8th 2012, 0:08:56

Intel is for limp wrists. AMD baby :P

you could get a 60gb SSD and a 500GB HD for the same price as a 120GB SSD. windows is only 20gb so the 60 will leave you with around 30-35gb for storage.

whatever you do make sure you get a sata3 not a sata2.

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ninong

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Feb 8th 2012, 0:09:32

Originally posted by qzjul:

antec bp430 (the one included in the case) is actually one of the decent cheap power supplies out there. but if you are going to buy a separate power supply id recommend corsair as well, one of the 500w or less cx series. or seasonic's 500w or less psus

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Bsnake

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Feb 8th 2012, 0:58:00

I would go all AMD or all intel...

Getting an AMD vid card and an Intel CPU is asking for trouble.

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Feb 8th 2012, 1:12:22

Originally posted by Pain:

In tests between sata3 vs sata2, there are benchmark differences, but few real differences for boot up and file transfer. If the sata3 price is about the same, then it makes sense, but overall I wouldn't spend too much extra for sata3 at this point.

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Feb 8th 2012, 4:11:39

Originally posted by Pain:

I used to run AMD in all my machines, overclocked of course :D, but as of late intel has been beating AMD in performance. AMD needs to pick up their game.

And Qz you don't like antec PSU's? I just might take your advice though I'd have to zap all my hardware over 50 bucks.

Marshal

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Feb 8th 2012, 20:57:03

Originally posted by Bsnake:

I would go all AMD or all intel...

Getting an AMD vid card and an Intel CPU is asking for trouble.

1. sadly intel graphic isn't that suitable for hard gaming.

2. intel has (slightly) better processors than amd.

3. amd makes good video cards and nvidia is only real competitor on gaming graphics.

4. haven't seen any troubles on amd (ati) card and intel processor (incl. mine radeon 4870 and core2@quad).

Requiem

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Feb 8th 2012, 21:01:01

I've used ATI cards with intel processor's for a while now and have yet to see any problems arise because of that.

qzjul

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Feb 8th 2012, 22:22:56

no, i don't like antec PSU's, those are what blew up two of my computers! hate!

antec used to (years ago!) buy their powersupplies from seasonic which had good PSU's, then they switched to some generic el-cheapo supplier, and now they are, on average, much suckier than they used to be...

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Requiem

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Feb 8th 2012, 22:59:27

Well that sucks I must have just been lucky with mine, of course I'm not running servers so maybe our power requirements are different :p

Marshal

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Feb 8th 2012, 23:10:11

i have old antec sonata III and so far no problems with psu even during short power outtakes.

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Feb 9th 2012, 0:42:30

Originally posted by Bsnake:

I would go all AMD or all intel...

Getting an AMD vid card and an Intel CPU is asking for trouble.

troll less plx?

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qzjul

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Feb 9th 2012, 2:57:59

mhmm I'm not saying you *WILL* have problems; just that there's a higher percentage of people that do; (HYPOTHETICALLY) if 5% of people experience a problem after 2-5 years with antec, compared to 0.5% for something like corsair, is that worth the $50 ? To me, absolutely...

Also my server is/was basically just a desktop, with 5-7 hard drives in it... (no video card though!)

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Feb 9th 2012, 3:04:26

intel chip + amd video = win.

do not buy cyberpower psu as well... they suck too

i agree with ssd for OS and apps.

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Reckless

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Feb 9th 2012, 3:25:23

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com

When I get the cash I am saving to get one off there.

ninong

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Feb 9th 2012, 3:30:26

brand (amd/intel/nvidia) doesnt matter, the specific model does.

here's a pretty accurate graphics & cpu heirarchy chart when it comes to gaming.

http://www.tomshardware.com/...s-card-review,3107-7.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/...iew-overclock,3106-5.html

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Feb 9th 2012, 3:33:28

Originally posted by Reckless:

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com

When I get the cash I am saving to get one off there.

Thats where i got my computer. 3 years ago.

when it was delievered, the video card was broken, so had to send it back. just recently, the psu died. a year ago, one of the fans needed to be replaced.

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Reckless

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Feb 9th 2012, 3:34:40

YOU NEVER SPEAK ILL OF CYBER POWER

LittleItaly

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Feb 9th 2012, 3:56:25

its great to keep upgrading

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warmonger_1234

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Feb 9th 2012, 4:02:11

IBUYPOWER is pretty good

EasTPaK

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Feb 9th 2012, 15:22:34

you need this case

http://zedomax.com/...ds/2009/03/pyramid-pc.jpg

qzjul

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Feb 9th 2012, 15:46:41

If you're in canada, memoryexpress.com !

Though odds are you aren't

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Feb 9th 2012, 16:05:07

newegg and tigerdirect and canadacomputers are all goo:P

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anoniem

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Feb 9th 2012, 16:22:51

either way, your computer will be destroyed by viruses :P

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Feb 9th 2012, 16:25:11

Like many whom have pointed out, you need a better power supply. Overall yours looks good with the budget u have.

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Marshal

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Feb 9th 2012, 21:08:11

Originally posted by EasTPaK:

you need this case

http://zedomax.com/...ds/2009/03/pyramid-pc.jpg

and say goodbye to sleeping if keeps computer on 24/7.

Hohiro

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Feb 9th 2012, 21:12:26

Looks like a nice setup, but if you want to go SSD you definitely should think of 120GB and a HDD, as Windows gets huge with time and the programs and maybe some games need alot of space

Requiem

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Feb 9th 2012, 21:26:52

Yeah I prob wont go above 120GB for the SSD because of price.

Bikerman

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Feb 9th 2012, 21:51:12

Way to powerfull to play earth.....

Jiman

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Feb 9th 2012, 21:55:34

I plan to build my own custom PC as well, but at the moment I am saving up the money for it.

I want to get a 120GB SSD and a 500GB HD.

Marshal

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Feb 9th 2012, 22:55:34

price diff between 500GB and 1TB isn't that big so buy bigger hdd.

qzjul

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Feb 9th 2012, 22:56:11

buy 2 or 3 TB

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SirSepher

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Feb 9th 2012, 23:19:43

I agree with the power supply peeps: My last antec really killed my motherboard. Go with the good! Also, I'd recommend a Blu Ray player / DVD burner combo... I've been a fan of building up until my last purchase:

http://www.circuitcity.com/...No=1576154&CatId=2628

That's my current beast and has all the power I could ever dream of.

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Requiem

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Feb 9th 2012, 23:31:44

Yeah and make sure the HD is high rpms i hate slow drives...

You've convinced me not to buy an antec PSU.

I thought about the bluray thing only problem is I doubt I watch movies on it much... Thats what my LED Tv is for :p But if the price is right who knows.

Good stuff jiman let me know how it turns out!

Marshal

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Feb 9th 2012, 23:44:18

Originally posted by qzjul:

buy 2 or 3 TB

who needs 2 or 3TB hdd?

as for bluray-drive, if has ps3 then no use for it.