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Dibs Ludicrous

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May 11th 2011, 18:00:59

i dunno, not sure why LaF can't be blamed for it to begin with...

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TAN

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May 11th 2011, 18:04:30

Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:

PDM up to its old tricks, only you can't blame your stupid policies on LaF bullying this reset.

Yes, because this ONE landgrab represents PDM's policies, as if NO ONE ELSE DOES THIS. This is a PARADIGM-ONLY policy to stock steal.

Nice spin, troll.

Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:

So, in light of that, how to you intend to pass the blame off to those you are conflicting with this time?

To answer your pathetic question with another - Did you see us blaming them at all anywhere in this thread?

Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:

hmm, so was that an attempt to answer my question via example?

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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May 11th 2011, 18:33:28

Where in my question did I say you are currently passing the blame? I asked how you intend to do so in the future, which in no way implies that you are doing so now.

Edited By: H4xOr WaNgEr on May 11th 2011, 18:38:46. Reason: is = in
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TAN

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May 11th 2011, 18:36:27

My response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0

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May 11th 2011, 18:37:48

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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May 11th 2011, 18:45:55

ohh you sure got me there!

"oh he has me on the ropes, I better accuse him of crying, that will break up his momentum and mask the fact that I don't have a logical response to his assertion!"

TAN

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May 11th 2011, 18:47:23

You didn't make an assertion, you asked a rhetorical question rooted in spite and vindictiveness.

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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May 11th 2011, 18:52:43

rhetorical means that a response wasn't expected. I very much was hoping for a response (and a real one).

My point was pretty clear. You spent so much time in the past painting LaF as the bad guys and PDM as the runty underdogs defending themselves from oppression from the big bad farmers of your countries.

Our point was that you started it, and we simply responded.

What is going on in this thread lends further support to LaF's arguments from last, and previous resets. It is good for LaF's PR for me to point that out to those who you may have convinced last reset.

See where I am coming from now?

Dibs Ludicrous

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May 11th 2011, 18:56:42

meh, rhetorical means that it wasn't necessary for a response to be made... usually the question is formed as such that if the idiot takes the time to respond to it, nobody will question the idiocity of the statement.

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TAN

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May 11th 2011, 18:57:20

No, because PDM and LaF have a 1 year pact, so hopefully I won't talk or even see your FAs during that time -- because if so, that'll mean there are no FA problems.

You know that we are pacted, yet you come on here rubbing your nose in something that isn't your business.

Just fluff off already.

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Jiman

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May 11th 2011, 19:07:16

What an odd sounding pact >.>

Lord Tarnava

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May 11th 2011, 19:20:20

Just because one of our leaders decided to try and resolve issues with you, doesn't mean all of us have a new found love for PDM. The fact remains that a large chunk of us still think you guys are douchebags and half wits, degenerating PDM to the new Imag. Incidentally, Imag is slightly improved. I gues ssomeone had to take the spot of the suicider alliance on the server.

Dibs Ludicrous

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May 11th 2011, 19:35:04

so, does this mean that LaF members aren't capable of following it's leadership and accepting a pact that was signed?

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Lord Tarnava

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May 11th 2011, 19:38:15

No. It means that just because we are pacted, doesn't mean we LIKE said alliance.

Just because the law tells me I have to pay taxes doesn't mean I enjoy it.

You fail at logic.

Trixx

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May 11th 2011, 19:42:52

amongst other things

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Dibs Ludicrous

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May 11th 2011, 19:43:43

look, dudette, your members are deliberately on AT instigating failed relations between PDM and LaF.

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Dibs Ludicrous

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May 11th 2011, 19:47:03

hmm, maybe i'm incorrect, and it's LaF leadership that is on here sparking a fight.

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May 11th 2011, 19:55:47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAhHNCfA7NI
YOU'VE ALL BEEN SAXOBEATEN!

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Trixx

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May 11th 2011, 20:00:57

LIES!

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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May 11th 2011, 20:08:57

You are incorrect Dibs, because I'm not in LaF leadership.

TAN: I'm sorry but I don't see how your most recent post in any way relates to the post it was intended to respond to.

How does our current pact, talking to our FAs, or the potential for current/future issues relate to what I'm saying?

Dibs Ludicrous

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May 11th 2011, 20:09:15

Originally posted by Pang:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAhHNCfA7NI
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i can kinda understand how you feel, but you're an effing admin now, and are kinda stuck with being impartial.

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May 11th 2011, 20:32:08

I don't get dibs comment.
a saxobeating does not carry any political affiliations.

it's just the only thing in english in italy.

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Dibs Ludicrous

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May 11th 2011, 20:44:47

i sorta feel that your impartiality might be questioned whenever you make a post or comment on a thread related to Laf.

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Detmer

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May 11th 2011, 21:41:51

What I don't understand is how one NA member crying over getting grabbed because a fraction of his stock was at home has anything to do with LaF systematically farming us while knowing that their DPs were about to hit us...

LaF always have been and probably always will be the bad guys. This situation is entirely unrelated to that. Go find somewhere else to troll H4.

anoniem

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May 11th 2011, 22:55:45

well, you've obviously got members who think they can get rich off of other people's hard work and expect there to be no consequences?

i think we need etiquette 101 back!

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H4xOr WaNgEr

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May 11th 2011, 23:01:32

Originally posted by Detmer:

LaF always have been and probably always will be the bad guys. This situation is entirely unrelated to that. Go find somewhere else to troll H4.

I could make the exact same statement with equal conviction about PDM. I guess that will make it so?

H4xOr WaNgEr

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May 11th 2011, 23:19:28

pfft we comprimise all the time!

H4xOr WaNgEr

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May 11th 2011, 23:56:24

why should I? Burden of proof is on the accuser :P

I can think of plenty of situations though. If you want some examples you should go look at the big LaF/PDM threads from last reset, plenty of it gets aired out there regarding the negotiations from last reset as well as resets prior.

Trixx

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May 12th 2011, 9:14:20

/me goes old school and touches Huntress

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Flamey

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May 12th 2011, 12:49:00

Hm, actually I think stock stealing might be an interesting dynamic. It would lead to late set grabbing and potentially conflict between two big netting alliances late set.

It means the person with the stock has to make themselves unttractive to grab, whether that be keeping stock on hand for a tiny amount, having strong defenses, or splitting the stock on the market to minimise.

Adds more dynamic to sim city.

grimjoww

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May 12th 2011, 12:57:28

one way to prevent your stock stolen is to recall all your stock then sell them off again .. then recall again before being put back to your country and vice versa

Chaoswind

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May 12th 2011, 13:03:40

grim shut up :p

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Detmer

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May 12th 2011, 13:16:04

Originally posted by Flamey:

Agree 100% =)

anoniem

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May 12th 2011, 14:15:29

if PDM stole any of my stock i would kill them singlehandedly and then i'd kill grimjoww for posting advice.

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Detmer

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May 12th 2011, 15:00:52

Originally posted by anoniem:

if PDM stole any of my stock i would kill them singlehandedly and then i'd kill grimjoww for posting advice.

It's not our fault if your stock is on hand when we choose to grab you.

Pang

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May 12th 2011, 15:40:46

Originally posted by Detmer:

Originally posted by anoniem:

if PDM stole any of my stock i would kill them singlehandedly and then i'd kill grimjoww for posting advice.

It's not our fault if your stock is on hand when we choose to grab you.

it may not be your "fault", but it will most certainly have consequences.

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anoniem

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May 12th 2011, 17:40:30

i don't know what planet pdm's leadership is currently stationed on.

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Detmer

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May 12th 2011, 18:06:32

Originally posted by Pang:

Originally posted by Detmer:

Originally posted by anoniem:

if PDM stole any of my stock i would kill them singlehandedly and then i'd kill grimjoww for posting advice.

It's not our fault if your stock is on hand when we choose to grab you.

it may not be your "fault", but it will most certainly have consequences.

Yes, Evo is very good about retalling.

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May 12th 2011, 18:15:07

Originally posted by iScode:

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dLpLow

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May 12th 2011, 19:02:11

did ne1 mention bout Sanct doing all spy ops on PDM just to specifically target stockspilers and to steal out stocks? and now were being labled as stock stealers by NA? i think u need to check Sanct out first....we dont do it purposefuly but when some1 msges u and says sorry im oppin ur entire clan im just looking for targets to steal ur stock...Thats a HUGE fluffin difference.......

just my 2 cents and thought it should be said...detmer u can kick my ass later :P and ill like it

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Detmer

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May 12th 2011, 19:10:12

You can say what you want. You've got free speech in PDM.

Reckless

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May 12th 2011, 19:19:45

If PDM was on the opposite side you would have said the same thing. Its easy you say that's not the case. You are grabbing at a time when some players stock..to act like you had no intentions of that is a little BS.

Detmer

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May 12th 2011, 19:24:05

Originally posted by Reckless:

I would not say the same thing as you guys... why do you think I would be unhappy about people doing the same thing to us? (And I mean, assuming this was intentional, as we have already established it wasn't). The grab economy is what makes this game fun. I recognize that involves me/us being grabbed too.

Also, all-ex stock pretty much all round so by that logic people should not be grabbing all round in case someone is stocking.

Reckless

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May 12th 2011, 19:28:46

There is a big difference in amount. Agree to disagree.

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May 12th 2011, 19:43:55

All-X stocks all round? Have you never heard of something called "growth?"

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Detmer

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May 12th 2011, 19:45:31

Originally posted by Vic Rattlehead:

All-X stocks all round? Have you never heard of something called "growth?"

As an all-ex you very quickly start producing a surplus of what you need to invest in the future, so while growing (exploring and building) you are still producing stockpile.

anoniem

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May 12th 2011, 20:25:34

Originally posted by Detmer:

Originally posted by Pang:

Originally posted by Detmer:

Originally posted by anoniem:

if PDM stole any of my stock i would kill them singlehandedly and then i'd kill grimjoww for posting advice.

It's not our fault if your stock is on hand when we choose to grab you.

it may not be your "fault", but it will most certainly have consequences.

Yes, Evo is very good about retalling.

Is it mandatory for you to play dumb?

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Jiman

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May 12th 2011, 20:28:39

When has stock on hand been the subject matter of retals? I remember it always being about land.

Detmer

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May 12th 2011, 20:30:45

Originally posted by anoniem:

Originally posted by Detmer:

Originally posted by Pang:

Originally posted by Detmer:

Originally posted by anoniem:

if PDM stole any of my stock i would kill them singlehandedly and then i'd kill grimjoww for posting advice.

It's not our fault if your stock is on hand when we choose to grab you.

it may not be your "fault", but it will most certainly have consequences.

Yes, Evo is very good about retalling.

Is it mandatory for you to play dumb?

Is it mandatory for you to try and stifle all gain from other countries in this game?

Detmer

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May 12th 2011, 20:31:46

Originally posted by Jiman:

When has stock on hand been the subject matter of retals? I remember it always being about land.

Well it was about land until people realized that there were yet untapped sources of material to complain about!