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qzjul

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Apr 28th 2011, 3:32:56

How do you like the new attacking thing pang cooked up? :)

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Junky

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Apr 28th 2011, 3:36:35

I still have the old version.. I use the mobile way to play cause I can't scroll..

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Jiman

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Apr 28th 2011, 3:39:08

I enjoy it.

swampy

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Apr 28th 2011, 3:41:12

alot better

The sheer speed of the attacks has made stonewalling *much* harder, which will change strategies and defenses. This impact is magnified when you have a large number of players online at the same time (such as during an initial FS).

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qzjul

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Apr 28th 2011, 3:47:20

mhmm; the "Send Again" button was what i was mainly referring to

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Killer2

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Apr 28th 2011, 3:47:25

The attack again button is sweet! Good job guys.

qzjul

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Apr 28th 2011, 3:52:03

Well i think it levels the playing field between people who were using submit-to-tab and people who were using opera or something to do fancy hitting... and everybody else...

levelling playing fields is usually good..

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deepcode

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Apr 28th 2011, 3:55:09

iScode: same.

I don't know yet if this is a good idea. Will have to give it time.

As alex said, the speed of the hits were frightening. The question is, do we want the hits to come in like this? Is this the type of gameplay that players want?

The last time I saw kills this fast were with IX during the big block wars...

Junky

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Apr 28th 2011, 3:55:39

it'll be interesting.. if you get a large group to cordinate attacking it'll be devistating... unless your iMag..

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alexbajd

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Apr 28th 2011, 4:01:24

I don't know if I like it better or not -- want to see how it plays out for a while first. But I can say that this relatively small change may end up shifting strategies significantly. The ability to attack in "super-rush" mode will make the FS very important. It might, for example, lead to smaller clans being able to successfully challenge larger ones if they take proper advantage of a sneak FS attack. We'll have to see to know for sure.

I was online today when SOL did their FS against ICN/LCN. Watching country after country disappear in less than 30 seconds was weird.

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Apr 28th 2011, 4:07:57

Not too different from a large group KR before the new features when people were dead in 50 seconds. The only difference is there it relied on a few with the know how and now everyone can do it.

Junky

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Apr 28th 2011, 4:09:38

the larger alliance will probly beable to desimate more...

This will be an advantage for SOL, as we all know when to get on... having 10-12 people on at the same time... well you can see how it'd go down..

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Junky

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Apr 28th 2011, 4:14:48

I speak only the truth... if you got 30-60 second kills... it'd probly been against your own countries :-P

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Pain

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Apr 28th 2011, 4:23:13

30 second kills are certainly not new to this new attack setup.

45 second kills on higher break countries is not new either.

its just alot easier for people who didnt have that special touch before.

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Dragonlance

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Apr 28th 2011, 4:32:29

Welcome to our world peon's.

you could have had this too in 06 if you bowed down to the might of Deitylord and Ayatollah:p

*runs*

llaar

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Apr 28th 2011, 5:10:41

terrible, thanks for the option for the old way

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Evolution

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Apr 28th 2011, 5:20:10

I like it only because it doesn't lag :D as much. Thank you for the work.

I like how it updates your food etc stuff as well. Quite useful.

Pain is correct, attacking fast is not new. I always used IE, so I suppose people with fancy opera stuff had some sort of advantage.

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anubis0079

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Apr 28th 2011, 6:02:04

i think it is wicked awesome.

a true player would look at trying to wall that many hit at once as an expert challenge. and already we have seen a few people that did not coordinate properly and give a waller a chance.

i think any new toy in-game is a good one if it shakes up the game a bit.

+1 for the attack again button

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Wookie

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Apr 28th 2011, 6:03:18

this kind of ruins the chance of someone walling whatsoever, Remnant of Society (#268) (ICNxGARY) got killed in 22 seconds that's not even enough time to do one of those ridiculous sanskrit capchas

seriously some of those have characters that aren't even on my keyboard

anubis0079

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Apr 28th 2011, 6:14:24

i thought captchas were postponed for wars?

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Tinysub[SYN]

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Apr 28th 2011, 6:15:30

not postponed if u are attacked or getting attacked there is no captcha

Dragonlance

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Apr 28th 2011, 6:26:43

22 seconds is slow.

Thomas

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Apr 28th 2011, 6:34:02

Originally posted by Wookie:

If you experienced the frustration with the lag last reset you would understand how this is much better. It's hard as hell to stonewall, but they didn't even need one or two breakers. The first 10 attacks done were by 6 different countries. You can chalk that up to being a low break, the new attack function wouldn't have allowed that dude to wall as he clearly wasn't prepared, online, or was too foolish to buy up beforehand :P

Wookie

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Apr 28th 2011, 7:17:04

good point, if it wasn't a low break it would have been different. and I didn't know captchas were postponed for wars that's sweet

Devestation

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Apr 28th 2011, 7:41:47

"Send Again" has always been on Mars 2025- the difference is that you can only hit as fast as the "Send Again" button will let you- there's an automatic 1-1.2 second delay between hits so you can't hit -too- fast. I wouldn't mind seeing that implemented for a test run one set.

Evolution

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Apr 28th 2011, 8:03:50

maybe 5 mins between attacks then we can all stone wall

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Devestation

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Apr 28th 2011, 8:11:26

If you can't stonewall with a 1 second delay between attacks, don't bother leaving yer contact details to stonewall. :P

ClayQ

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Apr 28th 2011, 11:53:22

The button may have helped the speed of the kills today.... But id stake more of the cause on the fact breaks were likely incredibly low, say 100k to 200k tops.

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Apr 28th 2011, 12:09:37

i have it switched off

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aponic

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Apr 28th 2011, 12:48:45

You should be asking this in FFA qz :P

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Alana

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Apr 28th 2011, 13:00:08

I died in 37 seconds :(
I got one text and was dead before I even got off my duff hahah

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braden

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Apr 28th 2011, 13:17:05

dead before her cell phone opened the You have 1 new message alert for her to read she was being killed :(

Shinigami

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Apr 28th 2011, 16:04:24

I have mixed feelings as well. The player in me likes it, the war leader in me thinks it takes some of the fun out of the game.

Alana

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Apr 28th 2011, 16:35:07

so true braden :(

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Apr 28th 2011, 16:35:59

Alana nooooooooo :(

Pain

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Apr 28th 2011, 18:45:31

basically if youre not on your computer when they start hitting, youre likely to not be able to wall.

walling from a smart phone is pretty hard unless your attackers are slow. its even harder now cause everyone can hit quickly.

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iXenomorph

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Apr 28th 2011, 19:18:26

Pretty nice. Although it has bugged out a few times on me and screwed up my page.

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PraetorNLS

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Apr 28th 2011, 20:30:37

id say i hit faster with IE spam attack than this button but maybe im wrong and i dont have any stats to back me up, just my subjective opinion.

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Jiman

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Apr 28th 2011, 20:47:03

It would be interesting if you included a forced .25 seconds between attacks.

Marshal

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Apr 28th 2011, 21:30:25

its all right, takes time to get used to.

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qzjul

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Apr 28th 2011, 22:04:40

Praetor: you can test, cause you can switch back to old style in preferences...

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Scorba

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Apr 28th 2011, 22:21:55

I think the new attack setup is a good change, and definitely a nice move from the lag problems that were plaguing hitters.

I do think that most of the ability and strategies to wall have also been lost, which is quite sad to me, but I don't see any way to get that back as everyone keeps trying to hit faster and no one cares about wasting military anymore.

trumper

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Apr 29th 2011, 1:03:07

It's very easy to attack very quickly. The trick is maintaining readiness otherwise it'd be pure slaughter.

archaic

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Apr 29th 2011, 13:51:28

I thought that the dev team was going to try to lesson the advantage of the FS.

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Chaoswind

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Apr 29th 2011, 14:21:59

Well

Lets think about this

Admin countries are allowed to check fail Spy Ops on the countries on their tag, so too many fail ops can negate the element of surprise of the initial FS, or at the very least tip off the attackers and get the calls rolling so players can wall earlier.

The fast attack now gives less time to wall on the overall :)

so it kind of evens out... want to make wars harder? Allow automatic acceptance of Trade pacts sent from the same tag while the country is getting attacked :)

AKA

Country B of Tag TEST is getting Killed
Country Z of Tag TEST sends a trade pact
Trade pact is accepted automatically

Country Z of Tag TEST sends FA

Bounces/Bounces/Bounces :)

Country B has more time to get online and wall :)

To keep everything Balanced just UP UP UP trade pacts expenses, and force them so they can only break it after 48 hours.

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NukEvil

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Apr 29th 2011, 14:45:34

Or just have it as a user option to automatically accept trade pacts from countries in your alliance?

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enshula

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Apr 29th 2011, 16:56:56

actually thats a pretty cool change

and basically leaves offence/research free for most people for some active and some passive pacting

diez

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Apr 29th 2011, 17:03:09

free research spot? no way!!

enshula

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Apr 29th 2011, 17:05:32

based on the amount of tech used and produced by a country being or not being a techer obviously 'most' countries wont be techer

im sure you knew that though

perhaps if tech floor changed it would be possible, wonder what tech income floor compared to food income floor in express is