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Aug 7th 2012, 20:22:11

Rockman you have the right to that opinion. And to associate or not associate with whomever you choose. But I do find that the inability to have a dialogue about different points of view without personally attacking someone takes away from the credence of the author.

It's like the old saying that the first person that bring up Hitler (or Laughner for that matter) automatically loses their argument because their credibility is shot.

Very disappointing.

And let me clarify something without splitting too many hairs. Being suicided on bothers me due to loss of time invested. But doesn't offend me. I clearly need to build better countries to prevent that from happening.

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Aug 7th 2012, 20:05:08

Tsk Tsk rockman. I've always respected your seeming intelligence and logic. Personal attacks are so demeaning to you. Dragon seems to launch into them right away as well. Very disappointing.

Libertarianism versus anarchism. There you might have a valid point. I'll have to chew on that for a bit.

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Aug 7th 2012, 19:46:55

And you absolutely have the right to be pre-emptive. Like I posted earlier. It's free for all to do as they will.

The differnce is that the suiciders are anonymous so you don't see them running around with torches and pitchforks. So they don't offend me unless its my countries that they kill. Which they do.

But I will still defend thier right to do it.

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Aug 7th 2012, 19:31:13

The boys made some good changes that makes it less desirable to suicide. That is how you change behavior. By changing the structure. They heard your complaints and made positive changes to influence the game.

But pack mentality and trying to force personal opinions onto others is just odious.

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Aug 7th 2012, 19:22:41

That is exactly why I used the Jefferson quote. Just because you and quite honestly, myself despise suiciders, that does not mean that they do not have the right to be suiciders.

So yes I will defend thier right to be assholes.

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Aug 7th 2012, 15:19:40

Originally posted by Warster:

so when suiciders kill for no reason its ok, but if alliances planned to protect themselves its wrong and evil.

Oh, no, I do not think it's wrong or evil. I am just an anarchist. FFA is a free for all. Let everyone do as they darn well please. You just have to cope with it and adapt.

And I am just an ass trying to troll and inflame the suiciders that's all.

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Aug 7th 2012, 15:16:06

Originally posted by Rockman:

Originally posted by Warster:

so when suiciders kill for no reason its ok, but if alliances planned to protect themselves its wrong and evil.

Smegma is the guy who said that it was karma when Mercs got hit last set, even though Mercs has had a complete prohibition on grabbing untaggeds for the entirety of their existence in EE.

Smegma was also in Paulie's tag "Stones" that farmed one man tags and told them they would keep farming them unless they joined Stones. A tag which I stood up against two sets in a row while playing in a one man tag for my first two sets in FFA, before AzzKikr and I reincarnated Mercs for EE.

Your memory is a little weak there. Or at the very least you are skewing a situation which was explained to you personally.

It was my very first set here. I wsa getting farmed, no other clan let me join, so i accepted the first one that did for self protection. I had no clue Paulie was such an ass.

Now my own assishness, stands on it's own. But please do not associate me with that clown.

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Aug 7th 2012, 12:54:17

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."

Thomas Jefferson

I say that suiciders (might be a pain in the ass but) have the right to play and that they should kill any one who supports the above.

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Aug 5th 2012, 18:08:44

I think they're great mine seem like they're all for porn sites. :)

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Jul 24th 2012, 14:20:46

Originally posted by SublimeNightmare:

I just killed you tops from Mykonos Greece. Coffee shop with iced espresso kills. Thats WTF pwnt style points.

Mega Kudos to SublimeNightmare

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Jul 18th 2012, 12:57:34

Originally posted by kemo:

If nothing else you should listen to havoc tell you about getting strippers with his son. That's bonding right there. I really don't remember who it was but I can't login to there on my phone right now so it's havoc and he's gonna like it

We didn't get a stripper, we just picked her up in a bar. Definitely an epic night.

Had another one of those night last weekend too. Not as entertaining as she was, but it was an interesting cast of characters.

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Jul 15th 2012, 15:07:26

/waves hi to papasmurf

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Jul 13th 2012, 16:27:08

Originally posted by KyleCleric:

it's a 4 letter nickname to go with your 4 letter name. :P

Herpes has 6 letters.

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Jul 13th 2012, 15:26:54

I'd say that you are spot on.

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Jul 11th 2012, 1:44:53

Originally posted by mdevol:

Originally posted by smegma:

I've said it before, if CC doesn't get the FS in and chem everyone to death, they cannot fight a war. They are a paper tiger.

you have said it before, and you have been wrong. ask IMP how the last time CC got FSd went...

we are fighting this war. and given that we are significantly smaller than IMP, id say we are holding our own with what we have to fight with.

I might be mistaken, so please correct me if I am wrong. But didn't you have some allies jump in?

I honestly forget.

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Jul 11th 2012, 1:42:58

Best War: NBK
Best Net: TKO

Reason: No clans do it better

Overrated / everyone else: Mediocre at best

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Jul 9th 2012, 22:45:22

I've said it before, if CC doesn't get the FS in and chem everyone to death, they cannot fight a war. They are a paper tiger.

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Jul 6th 2012, 0:17:44

guess I gotta go read the news

:kicksrock:

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Jul 3rd 2012, 1:43:16

Originally posted by KeTcHuP:

Originally posted by smegma:

Originally posted by KeTcHuP:

Flo- what benefeit is warfare tech to an untagged, and what benefeit is all jets to an untagged? There is non, outside of killing.

Ummm, maybe netgaining on a 100k fattie with no defense?

How does warfare tech help netgaining? And we do not accept grabs from all-jetters, so that would be a kill either way.

Nothing worse than when you shoot down a perfectly good troll

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Jul 2nd 2012, 23:15:30

Originally posted by flo:

warster you blame untagged countries for the games fading popularity and why people quit... i blame clans for trying to run it how they want... and defending the killing or destruction of a country because you dont like that they can hit back....

Flo this game is a society in its own right. In every society a set of norms evolve. These norms become the rules of that society.

In a society these rules are generally accepted by all. Even wars are fought by rules.

Problems occur the most when people choose not to abide by the rules. When this happens repeatedly, these people are known as sociopaths. At that point society bands together to remove that threat.

That is what is happening to you.

Remember, when in Rome...

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Jul 2nd 2012, 23:08:50

Originally posted by KeTcHuP:

Flo- what benefeit is warfare tech to an untagged, and what benefeit is all jets to an untagged? There is non, outside of killing.

Ummm, maybe netgaining on a 100k fattie with no defense?

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Jun 29th 2012, 23:09:58

Sounds like a good change

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Jun 27th 2012, 22:31:17

Originally posted by Marshal:

hell no.

makes his own oil.

Clearly not a Democrat

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Jun 20th 2012, 22:18:38

Originally posted by m0bzta:

Let put it to a vote 50 countrys per people

what you people think Discuss

Is that 50 for each of your multis? ;)

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Jun 20th 2012, 0:59:01

Originally posted by WarTime:

Originally posted by Khavic25:

Either you are intentionally lying or are uninformed. Regardless you are just straight out wrong!!

Research land banks and you will see why farmers are subsidized to leave land bare.

Ask an accountant if expansion of a business is tax deductible or not.

I know that big corporate farms are subsidized to leave land empty. Small farms are not. "Big businesses" get things like PILOT programs while small, local businesses get the shaft. Just in case you don't know, PILOT is:
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Out of town developers get things like a local building, worth $4,000,000, only pay $10,000 for it and then a 20 year PILOT program where they don't pay the taxes the City would normally get for a $4,000,000 building!

Here they use Restore New York grant money to tear buildings down so that developers have a "shovel ready" site instead of reusing buildings smartly.

I go to every City Council meeting and see this stuff happening. So if you still think I'm lying or uninformed, you're wrong. Try going to your own City Council meetings and see for yourself.

Pilot programs can be a good thing when used right. Yes, they get the building dirt cheap and get a break on the taxes, and typically utilities as well. But rather than an empty building generating no revenue, jobs can be created in the new location generating more indirect taxes than the property taxes.

Like I said... when done right.

Just don't get me started on that whole use of E.D. to give private property away to corporations because it's "for the public good".

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Jun 19th 2012, 9:23:53

I fall in the middle here. I don't believe that we should be giving tax credits to Exxon et al for re-investing in developing an oil field in Trindad etc. That is a waste of my money. Let Exxon take the risk and reap the rewards.

On renewable energy we should promote by giving tax credits as I feel it is in our national interest. Guarenteed loans on the other hand no. Tax credits.

And the way this administration has handled these loans is frankly criminal.

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Jun 19th 2012, 9:14:55

That sounds like a responsible policy Rockman. Ok suiciders please leave Rockman's alone and only grab self-farmers who aren't protecting their land. Killing them is rude.

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Jun 19th 2012, 9:03:13

Are you referring to when Israel hits Iran and the price of oil goes to 200 a barrel?

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Jun 19th 2012, 8:55:58

Response wisely worded and crafted. The difference is the policy as worded does not reflect that. Hence my opinion.

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Jun 18th 2012, 17:23:55

*laughstattheironyofbigclansmistreatinguntagsandtheconceptofkarma*

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Jun 18th 2012, 17:20:54

Originally posted by JoeFFA:

ehh.. things are turning around, although it may take some time.

Labor prices actually went up a copule times in China, so pretty soon you;l have the Chinese buying american products and those made elsewhere :P

meh. we are going to have a 'lost decade' or longer just like Japan did.

Inflation is a factor for China but you are either oversimplying or neglecting the influence of currency manipulation. Plus manufacturing will just shift elsewhere like India.

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Jun 18th 2012, 16:04:44

Originally posted by Dragon:

Fair enough. Now we have some common ground and thanks for your reply.

So let's discuss why it's a "douche policy" to eliminate untagged countries especially when history proves over and over that 90% of untagged countries are up to no good.

Regarding one-man tags and untaggeds.

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If any one man tag or untagged country grabs ESD more than once in 72 hours, the tag/string will be summarily killed. There will be no FFAt post, there will be no negotiation. There will just be death.

Also, when I spy you after you hit us, if I even *think* you are a suicider, I'm just gonna kill you. Dictators, Fascists, Commies or Tyrannies prolly shouldn't grab ESD period.

I will personally be enforcing this policy. Please keep me busy. Please. I'm not tolerating idiots any longer

This is the problem I have with this. On untags, I can generally concur enough not to quibble. For one man tags there is a much larger scope.

Double tapping is rude in general agreed. But the limited amount of tags severely limits the amount of grabs to expand without self-farming. What is wrong with two grabs on two separate countries 70 hours apart when a clan has over 200 countries? Does that truly warrent death?

How about on a retal where to get land for land back it takes two hits. Sure it may be bad form but is death really necessary? It is a clan. What is wrong with a little foreign affairs first?

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Jun 17th 2012, 0:50:15

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by smegma:

I guess if you have the members and have the friends you can be as big a douche as you choose to be.

:shrugsshoulders:

BTW Dragon, personal attacks and smack talk during a war is quite fun. But, frankly personal attacks on a person just because they have a different opinion than you, is just low-class.

So I guess I have to agree with you. It really doesn't take much posting for a person to show everything you need to know about them.

I see. SO without ANY provocation, it was okay to call me a Douche. Not a personal attack?

Hypocrite.

Valid point. I implied it was you alone with that policy. I should have been clear that the policy is a douche policy, and the clan was dictating said douche policy. Not an individual in any way, shape, or form.

You are correct there is a differnce. I meant the policy not the individual.

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Jun 15th 2012, 17:51:07

remember, if you dance on the bridge while crossing, it keeps the trolls away.

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Jun 15th 2012, 17:50:00

In all fairness, liberal policies have done a great deal to improve the life of many in this country. Economic prime pumping a historically proven tool ans well as decifit spending.

The problem is that we've hit the wall. The deficits can go no higher. We cannot continue spending our way out of the corner the way we used to be able to in the past. In short our standard of living has peaked.

Now the bill is due. We've gone as far as we can go down that path. It is now time to pay the piper. Until the debt is managed we can no longer afford to prime the pump. And to pay for the standard of living that we have achieved, our grandchildren's will be reduced.

Nothing we can do about it except slog on through it the hard way and maybe my grandkids' grandkids will be able to start the cycle all over again.

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Jun 15th 2012, 17:36:32

No it's a troll brigde, not a KoHll bridge....

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Jun 15th 2012, 17:34:47

Originally posted by Khavic25:

Right there... right there... this is what no one wants to acknowledge :

If you make 25k a year then you are not "entitled" to a 60" plasma TV and all that other "stuff" people think they cannot live without.

Hey in NY if you are on welfare you qualify for a free Obama Cellphone. There are lots of things that people are entitled to have and should not have to live without.

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Jun 15th 2012, 15:21:42

Originally posted by cRaZyDaVe:

calling you a Troll is a personal attack?

did it hit too close to home? You going to go cry under your bridge???

Lol. now that is funny.

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Jun 15th 2012, 13:39:44

Flat tax fan here. Get rid off all the deductions. You earn it you keep it.

Top it off with a sales tax. You make more, you consume more, so you pay more.

Given that it does unfairly hit the lower socio-ecomonic classes but it is countered by those classes tend to receive more benefits. Plus they can get balanced by a standard deduction.

No system is going to be 'fair' or 'even' someone will always lose. It all depends on which lens is being looked through.

All I care about is the govt only spends what you take in.

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Jun 15th 2012, 12:10:32

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by smegma:

Since Dragon is making his own retal policies on 1 man tags, I think it's a great for 1 man tags to make their own policy: LG me and suicide you.

In case you haven't noticed, your little provocations aren't serving the purpose you intend or hope for.

If you want to discuss retal policies versus 1 man tags and untags based on historical fact, I'll be happy to debate the issue with you.

There are plenty of other higher powered trolls out there like Dibs Ludicrous for me to pay attention to. Maybe bring your A Game.. Oh. Wait. You ARE bringing your A Game. Sorry.

All that cool insulting stuff aside, if a one man tag or untag hits a clan (who hasn't touched them ever) and self deletes or escalates more than 50% of the time, you get the kinds of policies like I put in place.

I certainly don't give a fluff it YOU like it or not.That you do not tells me everything I need to know about you. :)

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Jun 15th 2012, 11:38:22

Frankly the article states that this drop is mostly due to the drop in housing prices. This goes back to Clinton and Greenspan with low rates and no documention loans building the bubble. And I am non-partisian on this, because I think Clinton was the best president we've had since Kennedy. But it is what it is.

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Jun 15th 2012, 11:00:27

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by smegma:

Since Dragon is making his own retal policies on 1 man tags, I think it's a great for 1 man tags to make their own policy: LG me and suicide you.

Meh. Too long to read. All I said is that I thought it was great.

In fact I think it's very empowering for them. The way I see it, the larger clans tend to be respectful of 1 man clans and seldom double-tap or farm them. Yet totally farm untags. So it is natural for the untags to express their displeasure by suiciding. The larger clans brought in on themselves.

ESD is large enough and has enough friends to decide to enforce this douche policy on 1 man tags. If the 1 man tags choose to express their displeasure the same way that the untags now do, then good for them.

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Jun 14th 2012, 12:59:47

Since Dragon is making his own retal policies on 1 man tags, I think it's a great for 1 man tags to make their own policy: LG me and suicide you.

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Jun 13th 2012, 11:06:49

Originally posted by DaNanna:

every republic in history, when it has ended, has been replaced by a totalatarian regime

this republic has already, i believe, lasted longer than any...ever

we've permitted those that get handouts to vote, and they'd be morons NOT to keep voting for those who give them the handouts

seems to me it's all over but the cryin'

It truly is the end of the roman republic all over again

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Jun 12th 2012, 18:10:49

Originally posted by KyleCleric:

is that the typical case at the dmv? i know the rep, but in my experience, i've never had to wait for more than a couple of minutes.

You clearly do not live in NY state. Where you have to stand in line to get your number to wait for your deli number to be called. But at least the hard wooden benches are better than just standing in another line.

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Jun 12th 2012, 18:10:01

Originally posted by Dragon:

Or, people could just not be douches in the first place and start fluff,right?

Action -------> Consequence

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lol. the internet is like driving. anonymous with no consequences. and expecting people not to be douches is like trying to teach pigs to sing.

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Jun 12th 2012, 18:05:46

Originally posted by mdevol:

Originally posted by Twain:

Wow. Do you not remember the whole supermajority filibuster discussion? The Republicans pretty much threatened to filibuster every single bill that the Democrats were trying to push through.

and if you know how GOVT works, you would know that all they could do for the first 2 years is threaten. because they didnt have the votes to do anything about it. the dems had super-majority but couldnt get all thier guys on the same page. THAT is why not many bills got passed, because a few democratic senators didnt wanna have their name attached to some of those bills.

and while the dems were trying to circle the clusterfluff they had going on, they dropped a seat to scotty brown and lost super majority, but until that point, the republicans could do nothing about the bills but threaten if they passed with 100% dem support. the problem the dems had is that they couldnt get that support, which is why they had to hand out pet projects/cornhusker kickback to buy the votes on obamacare and drop the "party of no" bomb.

Nothing better than a bill where "you have to approve it to find out what is in it"

Rofl

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Jun 12th 2012, 18:03:46

Originally posted by Twain:

Originally posted by smegma:

And a balanced budget amendment with a line item veto will take care of the rest.

Line item veto makes the executive branch even more powerful and was considered unconstitutional. I know you mention an amendment, which would of course fix that, but constitutional amendments obviously don't happen very often.

I agree with your last statement as well, about "treat income like income regardless of its source." I don't want to tax investment at a HIGHER rate because I don't want to discourage investment. It's too necessary. However, taxing labor at a lower rate than investment seems like it's punishing people who don't derive most of their wealth from investments.

So we add a balanced budget amendment with a line item veto
Treat investment income as regular income
Lower the rates for everyone including corporate
Get rid of loopholes in the tax code to pay for all of the above.

Problem solved. Let's go to lunch and have a beer. We'll need it, world hunger is next on the list.