Search For Author: Molotov - Earth Empires Forum

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 3rd 2021, 1:27:42

Originally posted by SuperFly:

Player base; Can we have one bot added to a server wide DNH? Let’s see what these bad boys can do without being crippled

Yeah I bet they’re good netters already if they don’t have to be door mats!

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 3rd 2021, 1:22:10

As Gerdler mentions though me and him could’ve finished up around the top. That would make the set dominated by techers and commies, which isn’t that the express standard?

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 3rd 2021, 0:23:20

he was having fun sending around weird messages. Obviously i didn't say anything like that.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 3rd 2021, 0:16:47

I drew the short straw and got suicided on for some reason. Kind of disappointing because I was planning on trying a fun destock and this was also the first time so far that I had decent market conditions.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 2nd 2021, 21:31:50

Get ready to party like it’s 1999, the bots are coming for the top ten

Edited By: Molotov on May 2nd 2021, 21:35:57

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 2nd 2021, 18:43:47

There were 46 human players that made it out of protection last round. There used to be 150+. I don't love the idea of bots on their own but they're basically a life support system for dwindling player base.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 2nd 2021, 15:19:20

If he does not accept the old retal he could have just treated it as a single tap and retaliated though. Seems like he instead treated it as dec of war lol. But we've also heard that iBraineater has been looking for some fireworks already.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 1st 2021, 21:58:36

The top of the standings has been popping off all round. :S

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 1st 2021, 21:52:57

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

if you have 10 people SS bots to fluffs as soon as they come out of DR, those 10 people are the only ones that will be playing for top 10,

Those players are actually playing really inefficiently. They are spending more turns on lower land yields than someone who picks and chooses their grabs with prudence. That's how someone like that MHowar guy plays but it doesn't win.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 1st 2021, 21:49:58

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

Bots are being SS to fluffs like clockwork and your argument is "nobody camps anymore" all while you at the same time just admitted to the benefits of camping...

For real, nobody camps. You can't camp, because DR fades off gradually and there's not a magic moment when NOW is the time to attack.

What I do when I'm ready to attack is check the news on a few bots until I find one where the DR is low. Especially this round it was always easy to find some.

I do believe that the game interface should be upgraded so you can look at the entire country list and click on any of them to see their news, a la eestats. I don't know why such a crucial tool is hosted externally.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

May 1st 2021, 0:38:01

I admit I was questioning it at first, but anything that’s a temp ban, who cares? I’ll defer to the judgment of the guy who’s actually doing serious work on this game. As long as people aren’t being expelled from the community for good then it’s not worth getting up in arms over.

(This is where I recall my old post history and all the gruff things I said to people, and count myself grateful I’m allowed to be here still.)

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 30th 2021, 23:40:44

Well as long as he's allowed back after serving some time i don't care =) Sounds good.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 30th 2021, 23:36:04

Did he break one of those rules? I saw him making obtuse arguments but I don't think he was doing anything intentionally over the line. He's always been like that. When can he come back?

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 30th 2021, 22:59:12

Is Celphi really being banned? He's an unusual guy but that's harsh.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 29th 2021, 17:19:09

o_O

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 29th 2021, 17:06:17

Originally posted by Celphi:

Molotov. The bots attacking back will only create a larger gap between the players who "do" & "do not" exploit the bots.

By the bots attacking back, they'll lose DR which means greater opportunities for those who know how to exploit bots to get even more land.

it seems like you are just arguing to argue now... if the bots can fight back then "exploiting bots" will look exactly like land grabbing weaker players on any other solo server. And that's the point

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 29th 2021, 16:52:32

Originally posted by Celphi:

If the bots are just premium land injectors and a way to provide extra resources into the economy all I can say is how boring..

Imagine playing a game of chess and the computer just launches all its pieces at you for you to easily capture.

There's not even a point to have an explore button. This game has turned into whomever can exploit the bot the best is the winner.

My analogy would be you are sitting across the table from another person, and the bots are a part of the gameboard. Because even if bots are on the server, we're primarily competing against other humans.

Also, they're going to learn to retal and war, so capturing bot pieces won't be so easy then.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 29th 2021, 15:28:06

I think that a bot has finished 11th maybe a dozen times, but never 10th. That's kind of unlikely. I wonder when we get our first top ten bot. Someday the bots might finish top 5!

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 29th 2021, 15:25:28

Originally posted by Slagpit:

For the record, I think that 16 M NW is a pretty good finish for a country that got landgrabbed 36 times for 8k acres.

This is a good point also. Once bots fight back, they don't get hit 30+ times anymore, and once they don't get hit 30+ times, they'll start finishing even higher. Not that that's even the goal!

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 29th 2021, 14:48:58

Oh yeah, I don't think it's indicative of anything all that meaningful, but I don't think there;s any misonception about that. it's just one scoreboard of many, and one that allows all players move up if they continue playing for a long time.

Edited By: Molotov on Apr 29th 2021, 15:01:40
See Original Post

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 29th 2021, 14:37:06

Celphi you're talking past slagpit's point, which is that tech at that price WILL pay itself back. That's how that makes sense.

To clear things up, perhaps restate your point, which is I believe that instead of acting on what the market actually is, that bots should try to anticipate the future and hold out for better prices

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 29th 2021, 14:31:10

Originally posted by Gerdler:

I wouldn't have finished as well if there were 25 players doing indy last set. :)

Hmm, if you were still the top commie but the other 25 dragged your score down and you couldn't finish in first, getting your "Best of Strat" count incremented by one might be a nice little honorable mention! #ad

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 29th 2021, 14:12:33

Originally posted by Gerdler:

The best techer last set was beaten by a casher, a farmer AND an indy.

Way to rub it in! :P But if we get a "Best of Strat" leaderboard........

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 29th 2021, 1:44:50

But it isn’t an average net worth leaderboard. It’s just a raw total counting number.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 28th 2021, 15:10:47

Once they can retal sure. Until then do we really need more farmland?

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 26th 2021, 19:28:08

Originally posted by Slagpit:

Originally posted by Molotov:

If techer is as non-viable as you suspect it will be, will future changes try to tweak it back into relevance?

28/46 humans played techer last round. 60% is crazy to me. I think the market is signaling that too many countries are playing techer.

Oh of course, the market shouldn't support that many techers. It was silly how tech prices were always so high no matter how many people played techer before.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 26th 2021, 17:35:19

If techer is as non-viable as you suspect it will be, will future changes try to tweak it back into relevance?

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 26th 2021, 16:26:54

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

Molotov's revenge!

I hate to do the same strat multiple times in a row but it looks like everything else is getting claimed, so guess I gotta!

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 26th 2021, 0:13:13

Originally posted by Slagpit:

I did an experiment where I only did 100 jet SS or less. I grabbed all round on a single oil rig!

Holy fluff what? You grabbed 100% of your land off zero def bots?! There’s enough zero def bots for that to be possible?!

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 26th 2021, 0:10:32

Of course my first time teching is the worst tech set in literally 2 years LOL. Very impressed though by the high level of competition going on in Express this set. This is where it’s at!!

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 25th 2021, 23:13:22

Right and additionally the 6 hour rule doesn't apply to countries you've hit, so it's a lot less scary now that one can just hit bots, and doubly less now that you lose 1k acres instead of the 6k that would've been. But i still cashed out on jets in my end turns in my old indy days here

When bots retal will they retal in the final six hours?

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 25th 2021, 22:17:29

2021-04-25 22:13:26 PS Enigma (#83) a big fat commie (#96) 1164A (1197A)

1. lol the 35m net commie got broken by a 5m net d00d
2. damn only 1k acres from a 50k country. as a primary only player lately i've never seen the "topfeed rule" in effect before wow

i bet #83 is the guy who bombed my banks

Edited By: Molotov on Apr 25th 2021, 22:37:32
See Original Post

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 25th 2021, 19:33:54

Techer. Prices were in the gutter and it was a waste of time. Of course last set when I was casher, tech prices were plenty high!

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 25th 2021, 18:56:30

I remember proposing changes like this almost 10 years ago with Xinhuan and oldman. Seems good.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 25th 2021, 17:54:31

funny how me and the commie's grabbing phases basically overlapped for all of 1 attack wave. it's almost like we played in different resets!

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 25th 2021, 1:29:52

By the way, "Best Farmer Net," "Best Commie Net," etc could just end up coming down to which top player played that strategy in the right market conditions.

But if the game can determine "Best [Strat]" scores, then I think in addition to counting wins you could also have a "Best Of Strat" counter. If you are the #1 farmer in a reset you get 1 "Best of Strat." But the #1 techer also gets 1 "Best of Strat" added to their tally. Obviously whoever wins a round would be getting not only 1 W but also 1 “Best of Strat.”

This is a great idea. It gives incentive to keep competing even if you're teching in a dog techer set, for example. Or if you're a casher in a reset where tech is $4000.

Edited By: Molotov on Apr 25th 2021, 1:40:01
See Original Post

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 25th 2021, 1:11:50

Oh there's a turn-delayed commie in the mix I didn't see before too.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 24th 2021, 23:12:06

Originally posted by Slagpit:

Originally posted by Molotov:

Theo casher will win unless something crazy happens with a farmer. Techer has no hope :(

What makes you say that? That 20k techer looked pretty nice. Prices too low?

Yeah, that's me and my round's gone well but I don't think I can outperform some of these other well played countries at these prices.

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 24th 2021, 22:15:54

Theo casher will win unless something crazy happens with a farmer. Techer has no hope :[

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 24th 2021, 21:59:31

Thinking more about it if at some point there aren’t really any meaningful changes to the game coming through, I could see even see seasons potentially being as long as 4-6 months. 1 month hardly seems like a “season.”

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 24th 2021, 19:05:10

PS: I also really like that it'll track top scores for a variety of strats. Will the game look at your end-game buildings to automatically figure out if you're casher/farmer/techer/indy? Could it get it wrong? What if I dropped land and ended with just 60 MBs?

Molotov

Member

EE Patron
400

Apr 24th 2021, 19:00:37

First off, love the seasonal model.

My comment was going to be the same as Gerdler's. 4 sets isn't necessarily long enough to let people try a variety of strategies and for there to be a large enough sample to get a super accurate picture of the competition at that time.

If there are still many changes to be rolled out, then I see how 4 set seasons will make sense, but once the game state is caught more up to the present I also would like them to be around 8-10 sets long.

Also will there be retroactively defined sasons? I've got the highest score in the pre-bot era, the first 50m score, etc, but all that is just garbage compared to modern scores.