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Popcom Game profile

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Aug 26th 2010, 19:46:53

92

in retal for a LG looks like he started to AB.
clearly u need to die.
:)
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Slagpit Game profile

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Aug 26th 2010, 19:48:10

You technically can't post what kind of military they have.

NOW3P Game profile

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Aug 26th 2010, 20:32:09

my bad - I thought AB's were legitimate retals in this server.

KSFRekuyukai Game profile

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Aug 26th 2010, 20:34:48

well i found the first suicider but no idea why hes targetting me lol...

32 PRS DRAGON (#28) 506 $79,571 C

i think i have about 100 attacks from him and about 100 spy ops from him lol...but its cool hes only slowing me down sides he suicided on me and i went up 2 ranks. :)

ponderer Game profile

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Aug 26th 2010, 20:35:32

4 AB's and 161 buildings may be slightly excessive for a retal for a 320A landgrab straight out of protection, but it's hardly suiciding. Now if it were me and I was pissed off, I'd keep going until I was sure that my opponent had lost most of their bpt.
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KSFRekuyukai Game profile

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Aug 26th 2010, 20:37:04

whats funny about this guy is i havent even attacked anyone lol and he comes out of nowhere straight out of protection hitting straight at me i dont know if he hit other people but its just funny...

ponderer Game profile

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Aug 27th 2010, 15:54:55

Originally posted by KSFRekuyukai:
well i found the first suicider but no idea why hes targetting me lol...

32 PRS DRAGON (#28) 506 $79,571 C

i think i have about 100 attacks from him and about 100 spy ops from him lol...but its cool hes only slowing me down sides he suicided on me and i went up 2 ranks. :)


interesting that #8 is also PRS Dragon.
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NOW3P Game profile

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Aug 27th 2010, 17:14:14

There's lots of copy cats on this server - I have a fan club every other set or so :-)

Popcom Game profile

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Aug 27th 2010, 18:25:08

Originally posted by ponderer:
4 AB's and 161 buildings may be slightly excessive for a retal for a 320A landgrab straight out of protection, but it's hardly suiciding. Now if it were me and I was pissed off, I'd keep going until I was sure that my opponent had lost most of their bpt.



1 ab is to many for a retal....

also, hes dead so w/e

ill get on #28 when i got more turns ;)
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Spear Game profile

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Aug 27th 2010, 22:12:06

#61 is retalling harmless spy ops with ABs and diffusing missiles. Never heard of that one.

NOW3P Game profile

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Aug 28th 2010, 7:09:09

That's nothing new - apparently looking cross-eyed at someone on this server is perfectly good justification for AB'ing.

Popcom Game profile

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Aug 28th 2010, 19:23:48

#61 is almost dead. just needs somone to finish the last 25ish hits.
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NOW3P Game profile

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Aug 28th 2010, 19:37:31

There's a lot more than that left....

Kingme Game profile

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Aug 28th 2010, 20:12:02

Done.

To the owner of #61, I told you I would kill you.

And I know you weren't BobbyATA n00b, so quit telling people otherwise.

Popcom Game profile

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Aug 28th 2010, 20:18:38

yea i was way off.
thou he did come on and play out turns so that didn't help.
meh,

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Dragon Game profile

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Aug 29th 2010, 15:42:56

Originally posted by ponderer:
Originally posted by KSFRekuyukai:
well i found the first suicider but no idea why hes targetting me lol...

32 PRS DRAGON (#28) 506 $79,571 C

i think i have about 100 attacks from him and about 100 spy ops from him lol...but its cool hes only slowing me down sides he suicided on me and i went up 2 ranks. :)


interesting that #8 is also PRS Dragon.



#8 Is my country though. They say imitation is the most sincere form of flattery though.

I have a fan club!

Just check my news. I'm the guy who missiled and GS'd someone half to death for a triple tap. They never learn. Hrm.

Popcom Game profile

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Aug 29th 2010, 19:29:28

if i LG you, will you delete your country?
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Dragon Game profile

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Aug 29th 2010, 20:16:31

Dunno. Probably depends on whether or not you're being a fluff when you do it.

However, I guess I could make special rules just for you.

ponderer Game profile

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Aug 29th 2010, 20:43:29

it's surprising how many people forget that they don't have a tag enforcing 1:1 retals in express. The reason ss and ps retals are the norm in alliance, ffa, and team is because they are enforced by the alliances. An alliance will go to war over 1:1 nuke or chem retals for land grabs.

A missile or two, three or four special attacks - these can be valid retals for landgrabs on this server, because there is no unified authority enforcing retal rules.

You don't just retal to get your land back, you retal to make the next land grabber think twice. A valid retaliation is anything up to the point where a land grabber decides to stop netting and fight back.

Edited By: ponderer on Aug 29th 2010, 20:46:06
See Original Post
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Dragon Game profile

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Aug 29th 2010, 21:01:17

I'd be inclined to agree with that. If I get grabbed once by a player and can't retal with available jets/tanks/troops, He'll maybe eat a missile. Or a Bioterrorism. Or whatever.

And I agree as well that the point to doing a retal in the first place is to show that you are an unattractive grab target.

Where the problem starts is when people do a ton of special attacks for a single grab. I'm not gonna turn a country into a parking lot for a single grab. Well maybe if it's Popcom I might, but by and large, I'm not going to get too upset over a single grab.

I've even modified my attitude on double taps to some degree but for sure, anyone that double taps me is getting something in at least a 3:2 ratio and it prolly won't be standard attacks. I like missile attacks for that because 3 nukes can negate a double tap and then some.

3AB's or GS's or BR's in response to a double tap really is useless, IMO. If you're gonna use those types of attacks in response to a double tap, you have to do a bunch of them or it's pretty much meaningless.








ponderer Game profile

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Aug 29th 2010, 21:03:49

dragon you're right, I probably should edit it to buildings:land for AB - that's what I would do on a triple, or a double if it was that time of the month.
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Popcom Game profile

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Aug 30th 2010, 2:01:44

dragon does make a really good point.
its called a retal, not "an attempt to get your land back"

prob is, you are at bigger risk of being killed if you just AB/harmfull spy opp/missile as a retal
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NOW3P Game profile

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Aug 30th 2010, 5:57:13

More than being killed, you're running the risk of inciting a brawl. If that's your intent, then it's all well and good, but if you're trying to net in peace sometimes it's just easier to let the stray grab here and there go.

Dragon Game profile

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Aug 30th 2010, 20:24:27

Right. The "stray grab here and there" is very easy to overlook and for the reasons you stated.

Double taps, not so easy. Triple taps or more.....

WarTime

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Sep 6th 2010, 18:23:16

I can let a single or a double tap go especially if they didn't get much but, tapping me 5x in a row = them being as close to dead as I can get them.

Mrredmanbhs Game profile

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Sep 6th 2010, 18:58:27

I had a guy triple tap me early in the reset. I never retalled due to my strat, but since I'm not going to win and have a stockpile of missles. Should I unload on the only guy to triple tap me in the set?
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Murf Game profile

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Sep 6th 2010, 19:00:04

tis something I would of considered, I didn't bother retalling anyone all set, just couldnt be bothered with it all

Mrredmanbhs Game profile

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Sep 6th 2010, 19:06:28

Looks like he is in a war with another country. I could really ruin his plan.
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Murf Game profile

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Sep 6th 2010, 19:07:07

indeed