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amenex

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Sep 26th 2019, 6:14:18

what affect the private market price?

sfbob

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Sep 26th 2019, 9:31:49

Military tech increases it.

the Temple

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Sep 26th 2019, 9:44:26

Originally posted by sfbob:
Military tech increases it.


Well that depends if you're buying or selling doesn't it.

amenex

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Sep 26th 2019, 10:22:26

just selling.. trying to do farming this set without selling in the market. seems fun..

amenex

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Sep 26th 2019, 10:24:01

not worth it to sell in the market if the price under $35

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Sep 26th 2019, 15:32:51

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Marshal

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Sep 26th 2019, 19:12:31

military bases affect too by lowering both prices.
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beerdrinker75

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Sep 26th 2019, 19:58:09

Originally posted by Marshal:
military bases affect too by lowering both prices.


Yep. Marshal is correct.
Just shut up and have another beer

amenex

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Sep 28th 2019, 13:06:13

i don't plan to lower the buying price but increase the price for selling in private market..
is it worth it to play demo farmer if the plan are only to sell bushel in private market..?

Marshal

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Sep 28th 2019, 15:11:22

yes but why only at priv? if price is 37 or more on piblic you get more money from there unless your plan is to stay in protection and buy 35 or lower and sell those at priv and that way get high nw.
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Hellrush

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Sep 28th 2019, 15:37:38

Originally posted by Marshal:
yes but why only at priv? if price is 37 or more on piblic you get more money from there unless your plan is to stay in protection and buy 35 or lower and sell those at priv and that way get high nw.


Don’t follow what marshal says. He is a fluffing idiot.

Marshal

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Sep 28th 2019, 18:59:22

and you are total retard.
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Kahuna

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Sep 28th 2019, 23:16:27

Lol round two guys ding ding ding.

amenex

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Sep 28th 2019, 23:20:48

Originally posted by Marshal:
yes but why only at priv? if price is 37 or more on piblic you get more money from there unless your plan is to stay in protection and buy 35 or lower and sell those at priv and that way get high nw.


if it over or $35, i will sell there.. if it's under $35, there isn't much difference.

32,000,000
to
35,000,000

i wanted to pile up a lot of food, then sell it market and in the last 3hrs in private. then i got attacked by a rainbow country twice. i retal and now he's dead.. around 10 minutes ago... hahahaha...

amenex

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Sep 28th 2019, 23:27:44

ah sorry... i spied on already dead country #10.. the rainbow guy still alive.. sorry..

amenex

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Sep 29th 2019, 3:09:58

on different topic, does reducing population have any effect on indie country..?

Kahuna

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Sep 29th 2019, 5:45:10

Production goes down

amenex

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Sep 29th 2019, 7:29:36

thank you everyone for the info

Marshal

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Sep 29th 2019, 13:16:05

population affects all production (indy, teching, etc).
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Kahuna

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Sep 29th 2019, 14:14:01

Does it affect farming?

Marshal

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Sep 29th 2019, 15:35:26

it affects all strats and govts.
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ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

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LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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amenex

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Sep 29th 2019, 16:20:15

next set, country of tanks only... muahahahahahaha...

Marshal

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Sep 29th 2019, 19:24:01

well hope that you won't get gs'd or br'd then.
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mrford

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Oct 1st 2019, 3:06:08

Originally posted by Hellrush:
Originally posted by Marshal:
yes but why only at priv? if price is 37 or more on piblic you get more money from there unless your plan is to stay in protection and buy 35 or lower and sell those at priv and that way get high nw.


Don’t follow what marshal says. He is a fluffing idiot.
Originally posted by Marshal:
and you are total retard.


both true statements
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mrford

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Oct 1st 2019, 3:13:01

Originally posted by amenex:
Originally posted by Marshal:
yes but why only at priv? if price is 37 or more on piblic you get more money from there unless your plan is to stay in protection and buy 35 or lower and sell those at priv and that way get high nw.


if it over or $35, i will sell there.. if it's under $35, there isn't much difference.

32,000,000
to
35,000,000

i wanted to pile up a lot of food, then sell it market and in the last 3hrs in private. then i got attacked by a rainbow country twice. i retal and now he's dead.. around 10 minutes ago... hahahaha...


you are talking about stocking. it is an old and reliable strategy. remember to keep your food on the market when running turns to avoid decay.

most people do a current->mono->theo destock.

everything on the market, switch to mono, recall everything, sell food on PM for $35, switch to theo, destock money on PM for cheap prices. usually $225 per NW.

you have to do calculations to find the avaliable funds to PM size ratio, but it is easy if you know the formulas. I'm a rusty vet, but I would be happy to teach you the basics and destock formulas. just ask.
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Kahuna

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Oct 8th 2019, 2:43:42


Edited By: Kahuna on Oct 8th 2019, 2:58:50

Kahuna

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Oct 8th 2019, 2:47:16

Originally posted by Kahuna:
Originally posted by mrford:
Originally posted by amenex:
Originally posted by Marshal:
yes but why only at priv? if price is 37 or more on piblic you get more money from there unless your plan is to stay in protection and buy 35 or lower and sell those at priv and that way get high nw.


if it over or $35, i will sell there.. if it's under $35, there isn't much difference.

32,000,000
to
35,000,000

i wanted to pile up a lot of food, then sell it market and in the last 3hrs in private. then i got attacked by a rainbow country twice. i retal and now he's dead.. around 10 minutes ago... hahahaha...


you are talking about stocking. it is an old and reliable strategy. remember to keep your food on the market when running turns to avoid decay.

most people do a current->mono->theo destock.

everything on the market, switch to mono, recall everything, sell food on PM for $35, switch to theo, destock money on PM for cheap prices. usually $225 per NW.

you have to do calculations to find the avaliable funds to PM size ratio, but it is easy if you know the formulas. I'm a rusty vet, but I would be happy to teach you the basics and destock formulas. just ask.


Mr Ford if you can or anyone can share these formulas I was having trouble figuring stuff like this out . These formulas woulda came in handy in FFA; I had extra oil leftover and I was trying to figure out how much oil to sell and how much to leave behind for me to generate military in private market to be able to spend my money leaving the least amount unspent or oil left over as possible. If you can help me simplify this please if not thanks anyway.

Tigress

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Oct 9th 2019, 14:19:49

If you have 0% military tech, your acreage will not affect the amount of NW you can get with $2 billion dollars.

The amount of NW you can get off the public market is based on unit price, unit quantity, and market commissions.

Example: Suppose there are an infinite number of troops on the public market for $130 and you are a demo. This unit gives you the most NW / dollar spent, so you buy only troops with your money.

NW gained = (NW OF UNIT) * 2000000000 / (UNIT PRICE * (1 + COMMISSION))

NW gained = (0.5 * $2 000 000 000) / ($130 * (1 + 0)) = 7 692 307 NW


Example: Suppose there are an infinite number of jets on the public market for $160 and you are a republic. This unit gives you the most NW / dollar spent, so you buy only jets with your money.

NW gained = (0.6 * $2 000 000 000) / ($160 * (1 + 0.06)) = 7 075 471 NW


The amount of NW you can get off the private market is based on military tech, percentage of your land as MBs, and your government (theos get a 20% price reduction for buying and selling on the private market). Land only affects the speed at which your private market replenishes and the private market equilibrium. If you have more land, you can spend money faster on the private market.

Example: Suppose you are a TMBR with no military tech and 100% MBs. If you buy units equally, then

NW gained = (TOTAL NW OF UNITS) * 2000000000 / (TOTAL UNIT PRICE * MBMOD * TECH * GOVTMOD)

NW gained = (((3 * 0.5) + (0.6 * 2.5) + (0.6 * 2.5) + 2) * 2 000 000 000) / (2 025 * 0.75 * 1.00 * 0.80) = 10 699 588 NW


However, your assumption of zero military tech makes no sense in this context. If you are going to destock 2 billion on the private market then you want at least some amount of military tech.


For the record, 95% max military tech TMBR is actually much closer to:

($2 025 * (1 - (.95 / 11)) * 0.8 * 0.75) / 6.5 = $170.8 / NW


95% max military DMBR is:

($2 025 * (1 - (.95 / 6)) * 0.75) / 6.5 = $196.6 / NW

old might not be accurate -- however it provides a baseline to start with
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