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Hessman123

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Jun 7th 2019, 22:33:49

Lots of folks land grabbing other folks and not attacking bots this set

I like it

vatzooland

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Jun 8th 2019, 0:12:43

finally a real game instead of those little scared people only hitting bots.

I like it too.

Ratski Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 3:47:38

Some one kicked Ginger 5, #1 Arse.. lol

Hessman123

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Jun 8th 2019, 4:33:57

#82 did a nice retal and then #1 unloaded his missiles.. and then #82 showed up with his tanks

it seems they have both moved on though, good fun

Chevs

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Jun 8th 2019, 12:33:01

Originally posted by Ratski:
Some one kicked Ginger 5, #1 Arse.. lol


Ratski is #82 confirmed...pumping his own tires lol!

Originally posted by Hessman123:
#82 did a nice retal and then #1 unloaded his missiles.. and then #82 showed up with his tanks

it seems they have both moved on though, good fun


Or is it Hess?!!

Serious note how do you destock what little stock you have on express?
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2019-04-03 21:40:26 PS the stinky deyicks (#599) Beryl Houston (#360) LaF 30638A (43783A)
En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

Hessman123

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Jun 8th 2019, 13:15:44

I'll usually just use the public market

last set I had about 100 mil bushels stocked.. sold them all on the public on the last day

And I pretty much jumped off the public market as well.. using standing orders

I only bought out troops and tanks off PM

Chevs

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Jun 8th 2019, 13:23:22

100m bushels buys you how much NW?

No clue how these dudes are getting 30m+ NW when I look at past scores....
SOF Head Of Poop
2019-04-03 21:40:26 PS the stinky deyicks (#599) Beryl Houston (#360) LaF 30638A (43783A)
En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

Hessman123

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Jun 8th 2019, 14:38:04

Can do the math.. with some assumptions

100 million bushels, assume average sell price $36 = 3.6 billion cash

Assume an average purchase price of $125 troops = 28.8 million troops

Troops are .5 networth.. so 14.4 mil net worth of bushels

I also had 2 bil cash.. and I think I finished around 45 mil net worth last set

Gerdler Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 15:27:20

35-45m has to be considered pretty standard for a CI or techer.

Ratski Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 16:07:12

I am not running a tyranny gov. But I am still in the top 20.

Chevs

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Jun 8th 2019, 16:52:01

When should I put my bushels up for sale? If you wait too long they may not sell?
SOF Head Of Poop
2019-04-03 21:40:26 PS the stinky deyicks (#599) Beryl Houston (#360) LaF 30638A (43783A)
En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

Gerdler Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 17:28:53

if you sell them at 35 in the end they should sell if theres any demo in the game.

bizzy Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 18:02:51

Originally posted by Chevs:
When should I put my bushels up for sale? If you wait too long they may not sell?


How many you got? I will buy them all at 29.

Hessman123

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Jun 8th 2019, 18:41:34

I'll pay 30!

Neil Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 20:28:16

I didn't know there were bots......

Neil Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 20:28:39

how do i tell

bug03 Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 20:34:40

Same as 1a.

Also I’m gonna really mess things up here before too long just for funzies

Hessman123

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Jun 8th 2019, 20:53:53

Nice, do it bug

Marshal Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 20:55:46

bots: lots of defs no attacks, names (3 syllables) start with capped letter and other things.

bots names are created by this: https://github.com/...r/NameGenerator.class.php

disclaimer: not all which meet above reqs are bots, some are human players just biding their time before wrecking attackers.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

bug03 Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 20:57:31

Originally posted by Hessman123:
Nice, do it bug


Which one is you? ;)

Chevs

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Jun 8th 2019, 23:45:51

Bug are u fcking with me
SOF Head Of Poop
2019-04-03 21:40:26 PS the stinky deyicks (#599) Beryl Houston (#360) LaF 30638A (43783A)
En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

bug03 Game profile

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Jun 8th 2019, 23:49:55

Nah, failed a big retal cuz of ss instead of ps and now I’m probably just gonna grab humans and see what happens

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Jun 9th 2019, 0:48:40

Originally posted by Hessman123:
Lots of folks land grabbing other folks and not attacking bots this set

I like it


Originally posted by vatzooland:
finally a real game instead of those little scared people only hitting bots.

I like it too.


You two should post your country name every set and I'll make it a mission to hit both of you each and every set, ball is in your court gentlemen....
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
(•_•)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6VRMGTwU4I
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S.F. Giants 2010, 2012, 2014 World Series Champions, fluff YEAH!

Chevs

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Jun 9th 2019, 1:00:12

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by Hessman123:
Lots of folks land grabbing other folks and not attacking bots this set

I like it


Originally posted by vatzooland:
finally a real game instead of those little scared people only hitting bots.

I like it too.


You two should post your country name every set and I'll make it a mission to hit both of you each and every set, ball is in your court gentlemen....


I think you missed the point entirely but I’m not surprised
SOF Head Of Poop
2019-04-03 21:40:26 PS the stinky deyicks (#599) Beryl Houston (#360) LaF 30638A (43783A)
En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

bug03 Game profile

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Jun 9th 2019, 1:09:33

Nah bro, you did. Vatzooland is the guy I was retalling and failed. He grabbed first ;)

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Jun 9th 2019, 1:28:36

Originally posted by Chevs:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by Hessman123:
Lots of folks land grabbing other folks and not attacking bots this set

I like it


Originally posted by vatzooland:
finally a real game instead of those little scared people only hitting bots.

I like it too.


You two should post your country name every set and I'll make it a mission to hit both of you each and every set, ball is in your court gentlemen....


I think you missed the point entirely but I’m not surprised


Did I strike a nerve?
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
(•_•)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6VRMGTwU4I
-=TSO~DKnights~ICD~XI~LaF=-

S.F. Giants 2010, 2012, 2014 World Series Champions, fluff YEAH!

Chevs

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Jun 9th 2019, 1:45:16

Wow #82 got wreckd RIP
SOF Head Of Poop
2019-04-03 21:40:26 PS the stinky deyicks (#599) Beryl Houston (#360) LaF 30638A (43783A)
En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

bug03 Game profile

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Jun 9th 2019, 4:54:51

I wouldn’t say that even a little bit

Chevs

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Jun 9th 2019, 12:02:48

Should you jump in the last hour or when?
SOF Head Of Poop
2019-04-03 21:40:26 PS the stinky deyicks (#599) Beryl Houston (#360) LaF 30638A (43783A)
En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

Hessman123

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Jun 9th 2019, 13:48:05

I usually do my jumping jacks in the mornings

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Jun 9th 2019, 14:26:47

Essentially you want to maximise your $/NW ratio and there are a number of factors that play into that.

For example, if you are a Theo with a nice cheap private market you will want to try and spend all of your stockpile there, you need to figure out regeneration rate and how for out you should start buying it out. In doing this you are taking on additional military expense in the closing stages, so you want to look at how much that hurts revenue. In express the numbers generally work such that its better to jump wholly off your private as a Theo and take the hit on expenses. If you are lower acreage, then your private might not regenerate fast enough and you might have to seek some support from the public.

If your private is not so hot, then you need to be looking at whats going on in the public and remember its really thin, so take your chances soon.

If your revenue per turn is low (e.g a lower land techer) then it might be better jumping early and not running turns in order to be able to unload all your stock on your private.

Mostly trying to a do a full oil destock isn't going to pay dividends, as the oil market tends not to be big enough to support it.

Lots of variables, you kind of have to play it by ear.

bizzy Game profile

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Jun 9th 2019, 15:55:49

whats this jumping you speak of? Don't you just keep playing your turns like normal until the time runs out?

UgolinoII Game profile

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Jun 9th 2019, 16:29:46

So during the normal course of play, a well run country will by around turn 800-1000 (sooner the better) stop growing and start stockpiling (indy excepted - thats a whole different ball game!).

so for the rest of the round they will run turns and there production will be such that they end up with too much cash on hand to run turns (> $2bn and you start losing money to corruption). In order to get around this you will want to convert that excess cash to goods that you can then store on market (sell it at a high price that is unlikely to sell) - typically this would be bushels. Similarly for a farmer, you would want to be storing the majority of bushels, as they too suffer from decay if they are left "on-hand". These bushels are know as your stockpile (or just stock).

At the end of the round (or whenever you decide you need to jump) you would liquidate these either by selling on public or private depending on what you feel will get you best results, the immediacy with which you need the funds, the risk you are prepared to take with pricing etc

When everything comes together you can end with well over 100m bushels to liquidate giving you several billion in cash that you need to spend. You spend this on military, and your NW jumps.

The reason you don't put (all) your revenue into military as you go along, is because military upkeep costs (aka expenses) begin to compromise your profitability.

This assumes that you are running a specialist strat and not a rainbow. Rainbows don't really work very well, and I doubt have any need to think about jumping as they live a fleeting hand to mouth style existence.

Hessman123

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Jun 9th 2019, 18:10:45

Originally posted by bizzy:
whats this jumping you speak of? Don't you just keep playing your turns like normal until the time runs out?


Jumping jacks are when you jump in the air and simultaneously well jumping you spread out your legs and lift your arms so you land in a bit of a straddle wide leg stance with your arms up and spread out

And then you jump again and simultaneously you bring your arms down to your sides and bring your feet back together so you land in more of a pencil like standing position

then you repeat step 1 and 2 over and over until you work up a sweat and/or feel the need to stop, it's quite enjoyable

Hessman123

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Jun 9th 2019, 18:11:29

It's actually not as complicated as you might think, and most people can master it with little practice

Chevs

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Jun 9th 2019, 18:23:49

So I’m supposed to sell my bushels at 35?
SOF Head Of Poop
2019-04-03 21:40:26 PS the stinky deyicks (#599) Beryl Houston (#360) LaF 30638A (43783A)
En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

Hessman123

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Jun 9th 2019, 18:27:05

or 34.. or on your PM if you can get mil costs tech up and get your PM sell price to 34 or 35

bizzy Game profile

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Jun 9th 2019, 18:27:57

Originally posted by Hessman123:
Originally posted by bizzy:
whats this jumping you speak of? Don't you just keep playing your turns like normal until the time runs out?


Jumping jacks are when you jump in the air and simultaneously well jumping you spread out your legs and lift your arms so you land in a bit of a straddle wide leg stance with your arms up and spread out

And then you jump again and simultaneously you bring your arms down to your sides and bring your feet back together so you land in more of a pencil like standing position

then you repeat step 1 and 2 over and over until you work up a sweat and/or feel the need to stop, it's quite enjoyable


Sounds like to much effort, I will pass on jumping.

Hessman123

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Jun 9th 2019, 18:29:01

Originally posted by bizzy:
Originally posted by Hessman123:
Originally posted by bizzy:
whats this jumping you speak of? Don't you just keep playing your turns like normal until the time runs out?


Jumping jacks are when you jump in the air and simultaneously well jumping you spread out your legs and lift your arms so you land in a bit of a straddle wide leg stance with your arms up and spread out

And then you jump again and simultaneously you bring your arms down to your sides and bring your feet back together so you land in more of a pencil like standing position

then you repeat step 1 and 2 over and over until you work up a sweat and/or feel the need to stop, it's quite enjoyable


Sounds like to much effort, I will pass on jumping.


Hal Johnson would be disappointed in you

bizzy Game profile

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Jun 9th 2019, 18:29:56

I only care about what Joanne McLeod thinks.