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Jan 14th 2011, 13:10:58

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GovernmentF
Land9,000
Tax Rate35%
Net Income$-171,000
Net Food90,900
Money$28,000,000
Food77,000
Oil0
Turns121
Turns Played808
Turns Stored0
Technology
Military100%
Medical100%
Business100%
Residential100%
Agricultural174.57%
Warfare0.2%
Military Strategy100%
Weapons100%
Industrial100%
Spy100%
SDI1%
Structures
BPT45
Enterprise Zones0
Residences0
Industrial Complexes300
Military Bases0
Research Labs0
Farms9,000
Oil Rigs0
Unused110
Military
Spies75,000
Troops0
Jets0
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Tanks0
Readiness100%
Nuclear Missiles1
Chemical Missiles1
Cruise Missiles0

iZarcon Game profile

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Jan 14th 2011, 13:19:29

nice farmer overall. stinks that farmers have to play so def high, but meh.

After 800 turns, i'm suprised your agr tech lvl isnt a bit higher.

You might consider, if its cheap enough in terms of cost vs expenses, buying weapons tech instead of a lot more defense as the round goes on. as tech 's floor price is 1k, you can also sell some at end of set to buy mili for hat extra bit of nw. also assume u have two good def allies. have found that not many avid grabbers get off allies so def allies really do help.
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Drinks Game profile

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Jan 14th 2011, 13:26:41

No agri tech on the market. Put a standing order in before i logged last night but ran short of cash casue some idiots are selling bushels for cheap as chips

Have an order in for 50k.
Usually get my agri to about 130-150k and then stop for an express server.

Only got 1 def ally cause Pain hasnt accepted it yet haha. So looking for another def ally if anyone is keen.

And weapons tech will come into play soonish. Usually run around 120% once i get to about 1m or 1.5m turrets, depends how i feel.

Other than that, havent been around much this set, so have definently ran better farmers before.

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iZarcon Game profile

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Jan 14th 2011, 13:54:33

havent had the time to even play express since the christmas set. wish i did, love the game.

Now that i have new duties, seem to have even less time to play :-)

tho, yea. had a sneaky feeling that market must be empty. not many techers tech it, i always made most my income as techer from agr/indy with bus/res selling at about half the price.
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Drinks Game profile

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Jan 14th 2011, 21:10:48

Just bought the agri and military tech market out again. Still only at 100k agri tech and 70k military tech.

Have standing orders for both.
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Jan 14th 2011, 21:10:59

This is an automatically generated post. Please note that certain values have been rounded and some have been omitted to protect the identity of the country.

Basics
GovernmentF
Land10,000
Tax Rate35%
Net Income$-226,000
Net Food119,000
Money$490,000,000
Food900
Oil0
Turns2
Turns Played1047
Turns Stored0
Technology
Military88.98%
Medical100%
Business100%
Residential100%
Agricultural199.98%
Warfare0.2%
Military Strategy100%
Weapons100%
Industrial100%
Spy100%
SDI1%
Structures
BPT45
Enterprise Zones0
Residences0
Industrial Complexes300
Military Bases0
Research Labs0
Farms10,000
Oil Rigs0
Unused26
Military
Spies120,000
Troops0
Jets0
Turrets2,000,000
Tanks0
Readiness100%
Nuclear Missiles1
Chemical Missiles1
Cruise Missiles0

Slagpit Game profile

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Jan 14th 2011, 23:07:08

In future sets, I would consider getting more than 45 bpt. 45 * 45 * 4 = 8100 A

Personally I don't like to keep that much cash on hand out of fear of grabbers or people bombing banks. Did you plan on purchasing tech through SOs with that money?

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Jan 14th 2011, 23:58:14

the danger of bombing banks in express is minimal

until you have $1.4B on hand the reward to the bomber does not justify the use of one of the rare valuable spy ops
he could obtain far more by stealing tech or raiding food stores

at $400M the reward would be less than $1m
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Jan 15th 2011, 1:40:03

Slag, Drinks and I have gone round and round on bpt, and he has convinced me. I don't doubt him any more.
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Jan 15th 2011, 7:54:43

This is an automatically generated post. Please note that certain values have been rounded and some have been omitted to protect the identity of the country.

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GovernmentF
Land10,000
Tax Rate35%
Net Income$-286,000
Net Food140,000
Money$30,000,000
Food130,000
Oil0
Turns0
Turns Played1210
Turns Stored0
Technology
Military85.08%
Medical100%
Business100%
Residential100%
Agricultural208.19%
Warfare0.2%
Military Strategy100%
Weapons100%
Industrial100%
Spy100%
SDI1%
Structures
BPT45
Enterprise Zones0
Residences0
Industrial Complexes300
Military Bases0
Research Labs0
Farms10,000
Oil Rigs0
Unused26
Military
Spies140,000
Troops0
Jets0
Turrets2,500,000
Tanks0
Readiness100%
Nuclear Missiles1
Chemical Missiles1
Cruise Missiles0

Drinks Game profile

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Jan 15th 2011, 8:04:35

Slagpit: Check my comment above my status. There was no more tech on the market and i had standing orders for about 100k tech and 500k turrets. So that was the majority of my cash on hand :)

And as for the BPT arguement. I run less BPT because early on i want more cash than i would in alliance/FFA etc. Because farmer is weak in the first 300 turns. Therefore if i beef up BPT to 55 or 60 early on. Then I cant afford turrets and always get hit at this early stage.

Therefore i have about 40 BPT at 4k acres,

Which means since ill prob only be reaching 14000 acres, about a 50 BPT would have been optimal.

But I have ran 50-60 every other set, so im trying something different.




As for what Vic was refering to. We had a discussion in our alliance forum. And basically my arguement was for an all explore farmer around 70 BPT is otpimal during the set. Because the last 3 or so days before you want to switch, you spend turns building CS. Which will boost you up to over 100 BPT for the switch. (While a casher would probably prefer the 100 BPT early on, because those last 3 days it wants to cash turns, not have to build CS's)
However i wont be switching to TMBR in express, so that doesnt apply in this case.

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Drinks Game profile

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Jan 15th 2011, 8:06:06

My military tech is probably all ill be buying this set. maybe another 25k just before switching.

Will boost turrets to 3m next login.

And have started stocking bushels. If they sell, then its a bonus for me :P
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iZarcon Game profile

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Jan 15th 2011, 10:39:47

now everyone else knows to stock theirs at $54 with chance of selling :P
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Slagpit Game profile

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Jan 15th 2011, 18:18:00

I've heard arguments for running less than the "optimal bpt" in short sets, but it's very easy to mass explore as a farmer in express. I've seen all-X farmers go past 16k acres, which makes it hard to justify 45 BPT.

What I typically do in the first few days is builds 20-60 cs right at the end of my turns. That way you end up with more bpt (good for the long run) and more turrets/acre (good for the short run).

I agree with the general form of your argument about 1a TMBRs.

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Jan 16th 2011, 10:54:29

This is an automatically generated post. Please note that certain values have been rounded and some have been omitted to protect the identity of the country.

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GovernmentF
Land10,000
Tax Rate35%
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Net Food160,000
Money$180,000,000
Food150,000
Oil0
Turns0
Turns Played1621
Turns Stored0
Technology
Military85.53%
Medical100%
Business100%
Residential100%
Agricultural200.9%
Warfare0.2%
Military Strategy100%
Weapons119.31%
Industrial100%
Spy100%
SDI1%
Structures
BPT45
Enterprise Zones0
Residences0
Industrial Complexes300
Military Bases0
Research Labs0
Farms10,000
Oil Rigs0
Unused14
Military
Spies210,000
Troops0
Jets0
Turrets3,000,000
Tanks0
Readiness100%
Nuclear Missiles1
Chemical Missiles1
Cruise Missiles0

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Jan 16th 2011, 21:49:56

This is an automatically generated post. Please note that certain values have been rounded and some have been omitted to protect the identity of the country.

Basics
GovernmentF
Land10,000
Tax Rate35%
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Net Food139,000
Money$130
Food150
Oil0
Turns2
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Technology
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Medical100%
Business100%
Residential100%
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Warfare0.2%
Military Strategy100%
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Industrial100%
Spy100%
SDI1%
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Residences0
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Military Bases0
Research Labs0
Farms10,000
Oil Rigs0
Unused14
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Jets5,600,000
Turrets4,700,000
Tanks2,300,000
Readiness100%
Nuclear Missiles1
Chemical Missiles1
Cruise Missiles0

Drinks Game profile

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Jan 16th 2011, 21:51:49

Always Miss the Last 3 Hours (#38)
Networth: $16,163,148


And now im off to work. Terrible finish because i just woke up, didnt have time to sell my bushels on the public market, therefore couldnt convert to theo.
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