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En4cer

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Mar 15th 2019, 4:18:39

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=kjkCl_1552615402

What an absolute Piece of Shibby :(

Discuss...

Karnage XZ

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Mar 15th 2019, 5:38:57

it's been deleted.

En4cer

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Mar 15th 2019, 5:52:05

it was the 17m facebook live video he uploaded of him going on his shooting rampage... probably best its gone

Gerdler

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Mar 15th 2019, 9:43:52

"Subscribe to pewdiepie" wtf.

Also what is the topic of discussion?

For or against mass shootings?
I'll start off with saying I'm against. Tho for now I'm not concerned with elaborating why.

Karnage XZ

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Mar 15th 2019, 13:36:38

Whoa, the Aussie was nonchalant about the whole attack. It didn't show him shooting anyone. But the news outlets showed him speaking about his actions while he was driving and during the attack. He said he couldn't pick a target because there were so many to choose from. Well, so many radical Islam terrorists have been hitting Christian targets, I figured it was only a matter of time before radical Christians or people with no ties to a God-based belief system started striking back thinking it was race related motives. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think that in order to prevent these things from happening, intelligence agencies need to focus on what helps "create a monster" so they can prevent this from occurring in the future. I'm surprised they just gave up like that, I suppose we will know more in the coming days. One has to wonder if there is a new western-based terrorist group forming. With all the government-controlled surveillance of people nowadays we have to wonder how such elaborate plots are able to come to fruition right under our noses. I've heard in China they lock up Muslims or anybody who doesn't worship atheism and pledge allegiance to the Chinese state.

Buch

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Mar 15th 2019, 14:25:18

Thought they didn't have guns.....

Karnage XZ

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Mar 15th 2019, 14:34:17

Originally posted by Buch:
Thought they didn't have guns.....
This guy was suited up in militaristic gear and weaponry. Perhaps he and his buds raided an arms room or broke into some kind of surplus store.

Buch

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Mar 15th 2019, 14:41:56

That's illegal though... There's laws against having guns. Mass shootings never happen in those countries.

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 15th 2019, 16:26:03

Isn't NZ a gun free zone?, no guns allowed anywhere?, What happened?, How did it happen?, Can we blame Trump? How about the NRA?

WE NEED TO BAN ALL GUNS!



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I feel for the people that can't protect themselves.
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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Karnage XZ

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Mar 15th 2019, 17:03:53

2 KoH..If you're trolling well than let this just be for everybody:
If we can't have guns, we should be allowed to use alternative weapons. I personally believe most people are against having all guns taken away in the event that a tyrannical leader rises to power and takes control of the military and police forces respectively and use the weapon advantage to push any agenda through fear and intimidation onto their own people. There needs to be a balance in power between the government and people isn't that in itself a separation of powers? How can you punish the majority for what a very small percentage of people are doing. The government was created to serve its people, but as you may have seen the people serve the government. Where all the government has to do is ensure the media publish and air stories that fit into a frame geared towards influencing the minds of the populace into coercion, they often times employ celebrities and the rich because they know the general population idolizes them and idolization sells in more ways than one.

The common citizens are already at a disadvantage to the government, why would you want to give away your rights, and power, and liberties? People fought and died for the rights you have today and your just willing to give them away freely!? Unfortunately, I believe that citizens like yourself are the reason why there are no checks and balances because the government knows that their overly loyal subjects don't have the strength or backbone to challenge them when they get caught up in corruptive tactics.

Just remember anything you willingly give up to the government you're going to have to fight harder to get them back the next time around. It will be your children or your children's children's children fighting to regain what you are so easily willing to give up. Never Give up!


Aside from this, yes, it's a terrible thing these people did, but it's not a reason for everyone to throw down their arms in protest just because a couple of loose nuts, who were not supposed to be able to gain access to weapons in the first place were actually able to obtain them in a gun free zone. If you're not protected with guns, you are certainly not able to protect yourself without them, your loved ones or anyone unless you throw your own life down on the line and take one for the team. Police are not always the first responders, the first responders are usually the people who are the victims.

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 15th 2019, 17:06:56

In not trolling, I'm pointing out the facts, no matter how strict gun laws are, the bad guy can and will get them, that's a stone cold fact that cannot be disputed.
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Karnage XZ

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Mar 15th 2019, 17:20:08

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
In not trolling, I'm pointing out the facts, no matter how strict gun laws are, the bad guy can and will get them, that's a stone cold fact that cannot be disputed.
I agree, but you said all guns should be banned. Are you saying that not even the police and military should have them? I agree that if the citizens cannot have them, the authorities should not be able to carry them.

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 15th 2019, 17:29:00

Originally posted by Karnage XZ:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
In not trolling, I'm pointing out the facts, no matter how strict gun laws are, the bad guy can and will get them, that's a stone cold fact that cannot be disputed.
I agree, but you said all guns should be banned. Are you saying that not even the police and military should have them? I agree that if the citizens cannot have them, the authorities should not be able to carry them.


Sorry, I forgot to add the sarcasm font. :-/
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Cerberus

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Mar 15th 2019, 18:56:36

It's the inevitable push back, folks. I know that Obama and others have pushed the idea that so many crimes against people were committed in the name of Jesus, remember that speech, where he was talking about people getting on their high horse?

Well, those crusades, which consisted of less than 500 battles, were the push back for the thousands of attacks and battles inflicted on Christian Europe by the Islamic Conquerors who's holy book says to establish a worldwide Islamic Caliphate using every means at their disposal.

Morons don't want to look at history as a pattern, yet it is. Just like socialism and communism, they are spread using the same methods today as they used when they dragged Russia down into that socialist hell they created for themselves, and wish to have here now.

Thus, the entire democratic platform is "Hate Trump", "Hate White People", "Hate Successful People".

It is what it is, there will ALWAYS be blowback from any kind of actions such as these. Get used to it.
MrFord smells like Summers Eve

mrford

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Mar 15th 2019, 19:36:04

Jesus, the tinfoil came out really fast on a thread about 50 people getting murdered.

I suggest no one watch the video one of the gunman streamed while he went about shooting up a mosque. It is brutal.
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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

iScode

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Mar 15th 2019, 22:04:27

Well I live 2k's from the mosque, on the same road (well continuation) so thought I would let you all know im obviously fine, was at work at the time.

Couple of things to clarify

1. He had an AR556, only the highest class of gun licence can obtain these guns, and it is a very rigorous process to obtain, so someone has dropped the ball.
2. The myth we have no guns is bullfluff, you can easily buy rifles for hunting, automatics as per point 1 are much much harder to get, this incident will now make it impossible because unlike the US we will actually act on this to prevent it happening again.
3. These guys are just a fluffing nutjobs, its not an inevitable push back, its not the Muslims fault, the only fault here is the ignorant fluffs who acting on lies and false propaganda from other ignorant fluffs, thats it, dont give them any more credit than that. Dont try and blow this out of proportion, anyone who does this is simply fluffing insane, be they white, black, red, yellow, blue or fluffing green.

They are not us, they are not Christchurch and they will face the wrath of our city once they get to prison, that much I have heard through the grapevine already.

Additionally there is rumours that another 5 people are still on the lose with weapons and the police are still heavily armed and crawling over the city at the moment.

Edited By: iScode on Mar 15th 2019, 23:13:01
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macdaddy

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Mar 16th 2019, 0:34:56

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Isn't NZ a gun free zone?, no guns allowed anywhere?, What happened?, How did it happen?, Can we blame Trump? How about the NRA?

WE NEED TO BAN ALL GUNS!



🤐


I feel for the people that can't protect themselves.




its not exactly a hard concept to grasp. More gun availability = higher probability of guns being acquired and used by idiots.. Look at Japan for instance.. They have one of the strictest gun laws in the world and also have one of the lowest gun related crime rates.. Then look at America. One of the loosest gun policies and have the highest amount of mass shootings and murders per capita..

Edited By: macdaddy on Mar 16th 2019, 0:39:44

En4cer

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Mar 16th 2019, 0:46:39

I'm glad your safe Scode - i knew u were in the area but didn't realize you were that close to it... I saw the entire video he uploaded and i am just gob smacked at how calm he was and then when he was back in his car calling it a fluffing firefight - that really triggered me - fluff u walked into a peaceful group of people with an automatic weapon and just mowed them down.

TBH i hope that once they get what they want out of him (information wise - however the hell they want to do it) they just put a bullet in him too - you guys shouldn't have to pay to keep him alive until the end of his natural life.

I do however believe the media with what and how they report on things especially when it comes to the fear mongering based on religious beliefs has alot to answer for when it comes to creating these kinds of monsters.

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 16th 2019, 1:19:42

Originally posted by macdaddy:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Isn't NZ a gun free zone?, no guns allowed anywhere?, What happened?, How did it happen?, Can we blame Trump? How about the NRA?

WE NEED TO BAN ALL GUNS!



🤐


I feel for the people that can't protect themselves.




its not exactly a hard concept to grasp. More gun availability = higher probability of guns being acquired and used by idiots.. Look at Japan for instance.. They have one of the strictest gun laws in the world and also have one of the lowest gun related crime rates.. Then look at America. One of the loosest gun policies and have the highest amount of mass shootings and murders per capita..


Come attempt to take my guns, Hillary!
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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mrford

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Mar 16th 2019, 1:53:19

It is a lot easier to remove guns from a society when there arnt more than 400million of them, and a literal constitution mandate about them.

I own over 20 guns. None have ever been stolen, none have ever been used in a crime. Every one of them is in a safe when I'm not carrying them. I have kids and fluff after all.

I dont have a problem with better checks, but I want the checks already in place by law to be better enforced before we start adding new ones that will experience the same ineffective enforcement.

But you arnt going to take my guns. I draw the line there.

Edited By: mrford on Mar 16th 2019, 1:55:29
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Cerberus

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Mar 16th 2019, 2:54:39

Regarding the 2nd amendment. HANDS OFF! If you want to claim that modern firearms should be excepted because they're "modern", they're not muskets that are barrel loaded, etc. You can start that conversation with me by writing your proposals on parchment paper with a quill, and have it delivered by a guy riding a horse and wearing a tri-cornered hat. Otherwise, Just STFU.
MrFord smells like Summers Eve

LightBringer

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Mar 16th 2019, 7:25:23

+1 to everything iScode said, well put.
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sinistril

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Mar 16th 2019, 8:29:29

Not sure why you guys are having a gun rights debate. I do think it's fluffing hilarious that you guys went there when his manifesto literally said that he wants you to go there despite the fact that, obviously, gun control was not a factor in this case. At all. New Zealand is not the United States.

And maybe therein lies the problem - this terrorist, a self-proclaimed fascist, identifies with a tribe worldwide that did not exist just a few decades ago - the white tribe. As if, by being white, he has anything to do with other whites, and just sharing a country with only them will make him any less unstable. The wholly recent obsession with race is idiotic at best. We used to all agree that the Soviet Union was a bad actor even though they were white, Germany is the world's fluff up, etc etc. Suddenly, as if out of nowhere, we all get lumped together. Nah. fluff that. No one identifies with a guy that claims the thing that made him go out and kill 50 innocent people is because there was an attack in Stockholm 2 years ago that killed innocent people. That's retard logic, he doesn't have a tribe, and thankfully, for a guy that was so obsessed with birth rates, he won't be able to procreate unless he gets pregnant from all the anal sex he's gonna get in prison.

I hope you and the community around you remain defiant Scode, and don't let this terrorist attack define that community. All the best.

Cerberus

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Mar 17th 2019, 5:27:42

Well, in any event, this flufftard got a weapon in his hands somehow in a country that seriously restricts the possession of them. This demonstrates that those intent on committing murder with a firearm, have extra legal methods of getting their hands on them and that any "gun laws" won't change that.

So, if you will all kindly pay attention to the shooter rather than the weapon, you might find that flufftards come in all shapes and sizes and colors.

Figure it out. Make the penalty for this sort of thing punishable by a seriously intense penalty. For example, take the sucker to a stadium, put up a rack and stretch his ass out between the posts, then invite all the surviving family members of the murdered people to fling circular saw blades at him. Make it a pay per view event, and you can even turn a profit while you're doing it. This will dissuade other flufftards from doing the same thing.
MrFord smells like Summers Eve

sinistril

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Mar 17th 2019, 5:36:04

^ Sounds fine by me. I'm pro bringing back The Sicilian Bull for terrorists.

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 17th 2019, 6:14:35

I hope they give him the torture chamber, death penalty would be getting off easy.
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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Budweiser King

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Mar 17th 2019, 8:41:46

Originally posted by Cerberus:
Well, in any event, this flufftard got a weapon in his hands somehow in a country that seriously restricts the possession of them. This demonstrates that those intent on committing murder with a firearm, have extra legal methods of getting their hands on them and that any "gun laws" won't change that.

So, if you will all kindly pay attention to the shooter rather than the weapon, you might find that flufftards come in all shapes and sizes and colors.

Figure it out. Make the penalty for this sort of thing punishable by a seriously intense penalty. For example, take the sucker to a stadium, put up a rack and stretch his ass out between the posts, then invite all the surviving family members of the murdered people to fling circular saw blades at him. Make it a pay per view event, and you can even turn a profit while you're doing it. This will dissuade other flufftards from doing the same thing.


Well, I suppose that's one way to make him regret his actions. He can then accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour, and spend eternity in Heaven.
Dibs Ludicrous was here.

ZEN

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Mar 21st 2019, 9:20:48

Originally posted by LightBringer:
+1 to everything iScode said, well put.


I boo both posts. Mainly due to the fact that he said 2k's. Which, to non-foreigners/heathens/dingos, is clearly 2000 somethings. I choose to think miles. 2000 miles. Which is, like, really far.

Then I started thinking about that song that talks about walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more. To be the man, who walked 1000 miles, to fall at your door. And I was like, what does it all mean?? Is there a connection?? Should I buy a gun?? He could be on mile 999 already??

I am also 2,000 miles (x5) away from it and am also safe, btw.

iScode

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Mar 22nd 2019, 7:05:39

Originally posted by ZEN:
Originally posted by LightBringer:
+1 to everything iScode said, well put.


I boo both posts. Mainly due to the fact that he said 2k's. Which, to non-foreigners/heathens/dingos, is clearly 2000 somethings. I choose to think miles. 2000 miles. Which is, like, really far.

Then I started thinking about that song that talks about walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more. To be the man, who walked 1000 miles, to fall at your door. And I was like, what does it all mean?? Is there a connection?? Should I buy a gun?? He could be on mile 999 already??

I am also 2,000 miles (x5) away from it and am also safe, btw.


Damn you Americans and your imperial system!!! Metric FTW (2 kilometers I meant by the way :P)

Side note, the guns that cause this tragedy have already been banned by the govt with a buy back scheme in place, less than a week after the massacre, go us!
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ZEN

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Mar 22nd 2019, 7:33:17

Originally posted by iScode:
go us!


You saw it here first. He loves Americans!

Karnage XZ

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Mar 22nd 2019, 19:56:55

Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by ZEN:
Originally posted by LightBringer:
+1 to everything iScode said, well put.


I boo both posts. Mainly due to the fact that he said 2k's. Which, to non-foreigners/heathens/dingos, is clearly 2000 somethings. I choose to think miles. 2000 miles. Which is, like, really far.

Then I started thinking about that song that talks about walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more. To be the man, who walked 1000 miles, to fall at your door. And I was like, what does it all mean?? Is there a connection?? Should I buy a gun?? He could be on mile 999 already??

I am also 2,000 miles (x5) away from it and am also safe, btw.
Yeah nice work, the people of your country allowed your government to disarm law-abiding citizens for just one person going ballistic. Criminals will still obtain the weapons they desire.

Damn you Americans and your imperial system!!! Metric FTW (2 kilometers I meant by the way :P)

Side note, the guns that cause this tragedy have already been banned by the govt with a buy back scheme in place, less than a week after the massacre, go us!

Budweiser King

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Mar 22nd 2019, 21:57:05

Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by ZEN:
Originally posted by LightBringer:
+1 to everything iScode said, well put.


I boo both posts. Mainly due to the fact that he said 2k's. Which, to non-foreigners/heathens/dingos, is clearly 2000 somethings. I choose to think miles. 2000 miles. Which is, like, really far.

Then I started thinking about that song that talks about walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more. To be the man, who walked 1000 miles, to fall at your door. And I was like, what does it all mean?? Is there a connection?? Should I buy a gun?? He could be on mile 999 already??

I am also 2,000 miles (x5) away from it and am also safe, btw.


Damn you Americans and your imperial system!!! Metric FTW (2 kilometers I meant by the way :P)

Side note, the guns that cause this tragedy have already been banned by the govt with a buy back scheme in place, less than a week after the massacre, go us!


Are they going to remove all of the guns of that type? Or are the military and police still going to be allowed to keep their assault weapons?
Dibs Ludicrous was here.

iScode

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Mar 23rd 2019, 5:56:39

man americans are so fluffing retarded...
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Budweiser King

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Mar 23rd 2019, 7:10:14

Originally posted by iScode:
man americans are so fluffing retarded...


my bad. I read something about the New Zealand Defense Forces having access to advanced weaponry. I simply didn't realize that it meant Wrist Rockets instead of generic sling shots.
Dibs Ludicrous was here.

ZEN

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Mar 24th 2019, 6:43:31

Originally posted by iScode:
man americans are so fluffing r a d...


You saw it here folks, scode thinks we are rad!