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DerrickICN

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Mar 3rd 2019, 18:50:40

I am curious, on the email tip, if youd consider indicting Melania, Ivanka and Jared Kushner as well for use of private email servers for government information. They all broke the same rule. Melania broke it hundreds of times.

I'd rather see them all indicted for it or none of them indicted. Tbh I'm just not sure how much I care about that though. I think Hillary like trump, the process crimes are half as bad as some of this fluff they've done. I'd rather see them indicted for something else worse. Use of private email is something everybody gets hammered on these days. I could have my mind changed about it, but mostly I dont care. I think if I did care tho, I'd want everyone who does it to get hit with charges or whatever. Not just people I'm opposed to politically.

Edited By: DerrickICN on Mar 3rd 2019, 18:53:55
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sinistril

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Mar 3rd 2019, 20:05:48

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I am curious, on the email tip, if youd consider indicting Melania, Ivanka and Jared Kushner as well for use of private email servers for government information. They all broke the same rule. Melania broke it hundreds of times.

I'd rather see them all indicted for it or none of them indicted. Tbh I'm just not sure how much I care about that though. I think Hillary like trump, the process crimes are half as bad as some of this fluff they've done. I'd rather see them indicted for something else worse. Use of private email is something everybody gets hammered on these days. I could have my mind changed about it, but mostly I dont care. I think if I did care tho, I'd want everyone who does it to get hit with charges or whatever. Not just people I'm opposed to politically.


There's a pretty clear distinction. For one, there are no allegations that those 3 have broken the law. That does not stem from partisanship. The main crux of the issue, something anyone whose had a clearance will and can tell you but as one of those people I'll tell you again, is the classified documents and deletion of those e-mails that were under subpoena by Congress. The difference between that and legally using private e-mail servers for non-classified information while abiding by the rules put in place by the government is crystal clear. There are also pretty clear implications for transparency within the government if the state department can arbitrarily delete emails without oversight. That is something you should care about considering all the gigantic abuses of power the government has found itself involved in that have echoes of a developing police state.

And I'm not saying that out of any love for those 3 people either. I don't think they should be involved in government at all (that goes for all First Lady's too). Their involvement is nepotism in my opinion and one of my many criticisms of Trump and previous administrations. But it's a false equivelance all around.

Edited By: sinistril on Mar 3rd 2019, 20:48:04

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 3rd 2019, 20:50:40

Derrick, just come out of the closet and admit you're another Trump derangement syndrome patient in need of treatment for you utter hatred for the man.

Ugh
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DerrickICN

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Mar 3rd 2019, 23:15:52

Originally posted by sinistril:
Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I am curious, on the email tip, if youd consider indicting Melania, Ivanka and Jared Kushner as well for use of private email servers for government information. They all broke the same rule. Melania broke it hundreds of times.

I'd rather see them all indicted for it or none of them indicted. Tbh I'm just not sure how much I care about that though. I think Hillary like trump, the process crimes are half as bad as some of this fluff they've done. I'd rather see them indicted for something else worse. Use of private email is something everybody gets hammered on these days. I could have my mind changed about it, but mostly I dont care. I think if I did care tho, I'd want everyone who does it to get hit with charges or whatever. Not just people I'm opposed to politically.


There's a pretty clear distinction. For one, there are no allegations that those 3 have broken the law. That does not stem from partisanship. The main crux of the issue, something anyone whose had a clearance will and can tell you but as one of those people I'll tell you again, is the classified documents and deletion of those e-mails that were under subpoena by Congress. The difference between that and legally using private e-mail servers for non-classified information while abiding by the rules put in place by the government is crystal clear. There are also pretty clear implications for transparency within the government if the state department can arbitrarily delete emails without oversight. That is something you should care about considering all the gigantic abuses of power the government has found itself involved in that have echoes of a developing police state.

And I'm not saying that out of any love for those 3 people either. I don't think they should be involved in government at all (that goes for all First Lady's too). Their involvement is nepotism in my opinion and one of my many criticisms of Trump and previous administrations. But it's a false equivelance all around.


Hmmm. It's maybe a different crime but still a crime, but I hear you. Private email use, in and of itself, is not illegal. However, the purpose of having officials use state dept email is that every email sent is kept in public record unless redacted because it contains classified information. Federal law requires that any emails involving government business sent from a private email server be sent to the federal records. No less than 6 trump advisors (Bannon, Priebus) in addition to three family members have committed this crime. And it's a crime. Federal records law lays it out pretty clearly.

I do understand there's a big difference between violating federal records law, and divulging confidential information thru a non secure database. One is obviously more dangerous. I'm just merely pointing out that the public record violations is a crime that happens quite frequently in the state dept.

DerrickICN

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Mar 3rd 2019, 23:24:25

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Derrick, just come out of the closet and admit you're another Trump derangement syndrome patient in need of treatment for you utter hatred for the man.

Ugh


The largest derangement anyone has is believing a billionaire who acquired his wealth thru evading inheritance taxes illegally to the tune of several hundred million dollars and then lied to the public about a "small 1 million dollar loan" has clean hands. I've made the assertion that bill Clinton is a pedophile and a sexual pariah on this same thread. I'm not saying the left is clean, just that the right is as dirty. Do I think we should lock her up? For sure. I just happen to believe criminality is rampant in government and we should lock him up too. I don't attempt to make excuses for one sides crimes while saying the other side "did nothing wrong." That's not realistic. Anyone paying attention sees both sides brazenly committing crimes on a daily basis. The reason why the public never gets to see anyone arrested for it, is because public opinion always supports the politician based on politics and not whether or not they are criminal. We have to want to get rid of all crime and money in politics, not just leftist criminality. The first step is believing all criminals should have repercussions, which is why I brought up the violation of federal records law.

Edited By: DerrickICN on Mar 3rd 2019, 23:27:19
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DerrickICN

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Mar 3rd 2019, 23:32:46

To me, divulging classified information, while dangerous, does not disgust me nearly as much as learning Bill Clinton was at Jeffrey Epstein's child sex ring spa. I cant even fathom how much more I believe the Clinton's should be tore down for that then fluffin emails.

And like I said. I'm not sure the emails really matter to me, which is frankly a defense of trump and his officials. Because tbh, I can think of far worse stuff that they've all done of the top of my head.

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Mar 3rd 2019, 23:34:13

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Mar 6th 2019, 17:15:09

After all these years Cerb keeps trying to start political arguments on Earth forums . . . maybe some day he'll win one
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Mar 7th 2019, 6:31:40

Originally posted by archaic:
After all these years Cerb keeps trying to start political arguments on Earth forums . . . maybe some day he'll win one


I have no need to win when the empirical evidence bears out my arguments.

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Mar 18th 2019, 5:04:18

Here's the Russian collusion folks...

https://youtu.be/P7HZX-hmKqA

Obviously the wrong 2016 presidential candidate got accused of it.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 18th 2019, 5:51:56

Here's some more interesting hearings, fluff the media, let's go to the unfiltered information...

https://youtu.be/ANohtXQhkQw

https://youtu.be/I3B-ppFK6Wg

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Mar 18th 2019, 17:37:33

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