dude MD got me to come back this reset to net...i never would've come back to war...that should be evidence enough that MD was not going to war!

I gotta admit you guys are great allies. Doing everything you can to drag MD into a war including changing RoR policies midset, killing MD countries, performing ABs and harmful spy ops, and sacrificing yourselves just so that Sof can have an excuse to war with MD.

those are just retals

It's fine in principle, but then the other alliance will decide to do the same thing to one of your clanmates, and then it escalates.

@martian

ah i didn't realize that, but i can say for sure in economics (since i am in a related field), replication is definitely not done during peer review at all. reviewers do not get access to data and most journals don't even require the data to be made available ever.

anybody who has ever reviewed anything knows that the data and analyses are never replicated by the reviewer, so these errors will never ever be caught at the peer review level...it's up to people to replicate afterward and for the authors to post their data online, but unfortunately academia is structured such that nobody has any incentive to do either of those things.

also, my entire dissertation is on the perils of averages and why/how we should estimate individual effects :P

BPD is pretty adamant that the "20-year old Saudi national in custody" story is not true.

On another note, I didn't know you were in Boston! I live and go to school in Cambridge.

as somebody who hasn't played for real in a while but can go toe to toe with any top Laf netter, i'll say that if Laf now landtrades, this game is over and netting is pointless.

and PDM has some good netters, but i don't know if they're in the same tier as the top Laf ones.

back to retirement now.

Danger, I am very intrigued at the prospect of joining you, but I must decline because I do not support your policy of not farming DKnights. I have better offers!

Haha I got bored playing the same old alliance game and politics. Plus don't have time to fully devote myself to MD anymore. Trying to perfect an untag strat when I have time (and don't get killed randomly).

Since when does DH stop non-L:L retals. If one of your guys bounced when an untag is set to farm, does that stop the farming? As I said, he hit me 3 times. So it was 1:1 for the first, which I bounced. Then 1:2 for the other 2, all SS. Which is far less than what I was owed considering your policy is 2:3 and farm.

I ran dict with all jets and tech because that's the only way I can retal. If you look at my news, I only did retals. I never made a single LG. In fact, I had just finished retalling the #2 rank in the game before you guys decided to farm me for no reason.

I also had no intention of going crazy on DKnights. I was quite happy with taking retals and taking all your land until you guys decided to mass missile and kill me.

DH stops L:L retals only. This was not L:L. It was 1:1 for the first hit, and 2 for each additional hit.

Besides, DKnight's policy is farm for a week for 3 hits.

lol i threatened to suicide exactly once.

also, untags don't get treated the same, but small clans should follow their own policies especially if they want to survive on this server.

just for the record...some missiles were thrown around, but they were all thrown by DKnights.

Here is the sequence of events:

DKnights decide to hit me 7 times in one day out of the blue:

2012-12-28 23:47:41 SS Alcoholism is LifeTime Brain War (#51) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 45A (49A)
2012-12-28 23:46:58 SS Alcoholism is LifeTime Brain War (#51) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 104A (115A)
2012-12-28 21:43:42 PS Dirt McGirt (#349) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 211A (232A)
2012-12-28 21:43:30 PS Dirt McGirt (#349) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 310A (382A)
2012-12-28 21:42:57 PS Dirt McGirt (#349) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 321A (435A)
2012-12-28 21:25:43 PS DK SQUAD SUIT UP (#420) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 859A (1081A)
2012-12-28 11:20:14 PS Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 727A (895A)


According to DKnights retal policies, 3 hits means farm. I retal #349's 3 hits with 5 SS retals, well within the policy:

2012-12-29 00:28:31 SS Merry Christmas (#239) Dirt McGirt (#349) DkNights 498A (632A)
2012-12-29 00:27:55 SS Merry Christmas (#239) Dirt McGirt (#349) DkNights 519A (719A)
2012-12-29 00:27:12 SS Merry Christmas (#239) Dirt McGirt (#349) DkNights 684A (1105A)
2012-12-29 00:26:42 SS Merry Christmas (#239) Dirt McGirt (#349) DkNights 722A (1277A)
2012-12-29 00:26:13 SS Merry Christmas (#239) Dirt McGirt (#349) DkNights DH

I also retal #71 1:1

2012-12-29 00:36:29 PS Merry Christmas (#239) Uknown (#71) DkNights 490A (1048A)

#71 retals my retal with numerous harmful spy ops plus the following:

012-12-29 07:27:24 SS Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 707A (707A)
2012-12-29 01:50:59 CM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 441B 16725 C
2012-12-29 01:49:35 CM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 459B 19224 C
2012-12-29 01:44:06 EM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 8836MU
2012-12-29 01:44:04 EM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 8925MU
2012-12-29 01:44:03 EM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 9016MU
2012-12-29 01:44:01 EM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 9106MU
2012-12-29 01:43:57 EM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 9198MU
2012-12-29 01:39:01 EM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 9292MU
2012-12-29 01:39:00 EM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 9385MU
2012-12-29 01:38:58 EM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 9480MU
2012-12-29 01:38:54 EM Uknown (#71) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 9575MU


I retal the missiles plus 1:1 on #420:

2012-12-29 21:32:27 PS Merry Christmas (#239) Uknown (#71) DkNights 424A (665A)
2012-12-29 21:30:43 PS Merry Christmas (#239) DK SQUAD SUIT UP (#420) DkNights 2654A (4580A)
2012-12-29 21:27:28 SS Merry Christmas (#239) Uknown (#71) DkNights 285A (541A)
2012-12-29 21:27:17 SS Merry Christmas (#239) Uknown (#71) DkNights 282A (611A)


#420 retals my retal:

2012-12-29 22:44:25 PS DK SQUAD SUIT UP (#420) DkNights Merry Christmas (#239) 2810A (3497A)


Then DKnights kills me.

I know it's an alliance server, but this is poor policy for a small clan. I even offered to help DKnights with playing the game seeing as they clearly have a lot of noobs. But it seems like bstrong wants to defend his actions and slander me instead.

I am now offering the following. If any alliance wants a top EE player to help teach them how to netgain and just offer some advice, I will be willing to play for them next reset and help them with whatever they need. The only prerequisite is that you use DKnights as a landfarm next reset. If any alliance wants to take me up on the offer, PM me.

also you get a lot more land if you try to farm before the killrun, not during...

stop bouncing spy ops...i still have 0 troops, nothing has changed in the last 5 minutes...

p.s. i'm not even going to bother walling this kill run...i want to see how long it will take

doing a missile run because you can't stand to get retalled after trying to farm an untag...that's low...

you've made my naughty list DKnights!

Note: I am no longer playing this game and am unaffiliated with MD.

With that said, I check AT from time to time when I get bored. This crap that RD pulled farming MD is despicable. Couple that with the constant intra-alliance farming to claim the top spot, I have decided that RD is a cancer to the game.

At some point in the future, I will suicide RD and take out their top rankers and ruin somebody's top finish. It won't be this reset because I don't have a country. It probably won't be next reset because I have to finish a dissertation. But if and when I do decide to play again, I will be suiciding RD. And unlike most suiciders who ankle-bite low-ranked countries, I know how to do it to hurt netters the most and take out a top ranker.

That is all.

[quote poster=de1i; 21009; 387378]I'm merely a member in Omega, the decision was not mine to make. RD is welcome to be mad at me all they want, but it was their leaders not mine that made the selfish decision to farm MD right before SoF FSed them and do it in and brag about in IRC. If the other leaders and members of RD want to redirect their anger at Tan/Clear for doing it without their endorsement towards me then that is their own shortcoming not mine.


(17:50:34) (MrTan) okay, I am going to start the land raping of MD
(17:50:45) (damatt) commencing now!
(17:50:46) (MrTan) I assume your warchat is in 10 minutes?
(17:50:50) (Guldfisken) wc in 5 min?
(17:50:51) (Guldfisken) 10*
(17:51:00) (Ruthie) nice
(17:51:12) (MrTan) going in
(17:51:29) -› Join: Son_Goku ()
(17:51:29) -› ChanServ (+o) Son_Goku
(17:51:37) (@Flamey) oh come on
(17:51:46) (@Flamey) you could have waited until we hit lol
(17:52:03) (@cypress[home]) ..
(17:52:03) (@Flamey) I wanted to surprise highrock with the first kill [/quote]




what the heck...i'm not even playing this reset...whose country did you kill first?

post pics here please

Were you one of the ones that farmed me? I just wanted to try to see what it was like to play untagged...

If you were given 60k acres at the beginning of the reset fully built, what strat would you play to get the best finish?

1. Techer - pound for pound clearly the best netting government, but I'd be concerned how a 60k techer at the beginning of the set would affect tech and bushel prices all set. Probably the most market dependent of the strats.

2. Casher - Less market dependent, second best pound for pound. Only dependent really on bushel prices.

3. Farmer - Easy to play, not really dependent on market, but not as good as casher or techer.

4. CI - Strong off the bat. You could easily get to 100k land by just feeding everybody in the beginning. I don't know how a huge commie would work.

5. Reseller?

Yes I forgot Xin and SS and others in the elite netters category.

Oh please. You've never even played a set without taking free land. Good players don't need to do that.

If you gave me the same free land, I'd hand your ass on a platter. I could outnet you blindfolded.

There are a few great netters who play/played the game. Me, hanlong, bakku, diez, etc. Until you prove you can do it without hitting your own clanmates, you don't belong in that category.

The sad thing is you probably could have won this set without the free land and established yourself as an elite netter, but you chose not to go down that route.

This is what a top netter's profile looks like: no free land, no FA, no tech leeches

http://alliance.www.earthempires.com/serverprofile?id=3440

free land

1. i've never had a tech leech in my life. I play techer a lot so I have the usual tech allies, but when I'm not a techer I never have tech allies. Anybody can verify this if they want.

2. Prove me wrong. Show me a top Rd finish that has not been given free land or aid.

3. My record stands for itself. I've had the top non aided finish in EE four times. I have enough integrity not to cheat my way to the top.

4. I have outnetted all of Rd on a consistent basis despite all the free land you get.

Maybe if you use stopped playing the way you play you'd have fewer suicides.

Rockman and I never dueled. I don't believe Rockman ever nets seriously in alliance, but I respect his skill and insight. I can't say the same for anybody in RD until they prove they can do it without free land.

I've been playing this game and led alliances and finished at the top way longer than than you think.

The "best player in EE" shouldn't have to farm his own clan every reset to finish high. You give me that much free land every reset, I guarantee I will finish higher than Titanium 100% of the time. Anybody who's been around long enough will know that that is true.

I'm pretty sure I could out netgain any of those guys...

It's also laughable that you RDers think I'm a n00b or something...

because the netting scoreboard and all records are for individual countries.

If the scoreboard only reflected the clan a country was in, then netting can be done as a team.

From a practical standpoint, if netting was done as a team, this game will always be won by the guy who has the most lackies. Not sure that is a game worth playing...

I'm only talking about "cheating" for netgaining.

I consider it "cheating" when country A helps country B at the cost of country A with no benefit to country A.

well i don't know exactly who is there and what not, but the objective fact is that every single RD top finisher in EE has been given tons of free land via intra-clan farming. this can be checked pretty easily from eestats.

another fact is that no RD under the RD tag has finished at the top without the free land.

whether or not any of the actual current players have finished #1 without the help is something i do not know. i also do not know whether they are capable but just lazy, or completely incapable without help.

i only know the first three facts and from there i made my claims.

lol i'm only stating facts dude

I don't consider any of RD's top finishers since EE started to be skilled netters, since they all benefitted from intra-farming and/or FA. So in that sense, nobody currently in RD is a top tier player. There are definitely some good ones, but none that can finish #1 without free land.

If you told me hanlong or gramberto were hiding out in RD again, then I would say they have good players.

Have I missed something since I've been gone? Did RD go from being a real alliance to being a secret cult haven for famous players again?

haha #385 is not impressive...unless you count getting free stuff impressive

Maybe. But

1) How do you think he got that land?
2) He didn't get the land super duper early.
3) He didn't switch from Dict until 9/7. It safe to assume he probably had little to no stock at that point unless he was FA'ed consistently.
4. I buy the market part if he played it correctly since it was a pretty high bushel price set, but I'm not totally convinced he had enough stock to make up that huge difference.

In the end, I don't know if he got FAed. He definitely got free land, which is "cheating" in itself. I can buy that a very talented player playing the perfect set with the free land can hit 250M on 50k acres, but I don't know anybody in RD who is that good.

What happened that would make me butthurt? I wasn't here when you guys hit us or what not.

Also, I've been playing this game long enough and well enough to know when a country is playing above the realm of possibility. Besides the free land that that country got from intra-clan farming, I wouldn't be surprised if he's been FAed a few. I'm good enough to know that 250M for a 50k farmer is a pretty big stretch.

gotta put Omega above RD considering Omega has a higher ANW. RD has one cheater and a bunch of average countries.

this ranking thing is also messed up. everybody should just finish the same rank and we all get participation trophies.

Without the Electoral College, the top 10 states by population would form a majority of voters and thus dictate policy to the other 40 states.

300M

Everyone knows how this game works.

1. Decide pre-reset whether to net or war.
2a. If net, avoid conflict at all costs. Take it in the ass this reset and then go after them next reset.
2b. If war, decide which alliances are possibilities for targets. Pick alliances that are preferably slightly weaker than you. Pact accordingly.
3. Play it loose with the FA issues. Take any excuse you get to FS.
4. Make up some FA excuse to make it seem like war was not predetermined.
5. FS.

Frankly, deciding whether to net or war before the reset starts is lame. But that is the way to play to maximize your abilities.

i wish we could set different tax rates for different parts of the population. 10% for the rich and 90% for the middle class!

they should reconsider what i proposed before:

http://forums.earthempires.com/...crease-returns-to-attacks