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flgatorboy89 Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 19:51:59

LG me 2X ....i retal with 2 ps...then another 4or 5 on me? fluff u 43
Jon
ZT, SoL


<jon> off to bed fluffbeater :p
<mrford> i dont beat fluffs
<mrford> i eat them
<mrford> gosh
<jon> well, fluffeater
<Kat> oookay....

Kingme Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 19:54:35

So you GS'd him?

LOL, he thanks you for putting him in DR.

Celphi Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 20:00:49

My guess #113 will eventually wreck him.
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

flgatorboy89 Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 20:11:19

Im going to kill him...via GS not just put him in dr
Jon
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<jon> off to bed fluffbeater :p
<mrford> i dont beat fluffs
<mrford> i eat them
<mrford> gosh
<jon> well, fluffeater
<Kat> oookay....

Kingme Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 20:25:51

I got a buck says you don't.

Kingme Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 20:31:24

I'm feeling generous so i'll explain why...

It's going to take him ~10 turns to undo the civilian losses that you just gave him.

If you're going to kill someone on a solo server, and especially express. You have to catch them off guard and do it all in one attack. That's your best bet.

llamky Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 20:58:30

He hit you once, you recalled twice.

I was double tapped and then recalled to have the spastic 4x tap me amongst a few others. Half know your feel except this was your own fault.

Furious999 Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 21:27:20

Hitting someone back who is strong enough to land four more blows doesn't strike me as too good an idea.

flgatorboy89 Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 21:40:34

I retalled l:l
Jon
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<jon> off to bed fluffbeater :p
<mrford> i dont beat fluffs
<mrford> i eat them
<mrford> gosh
<jon> well, fluffeater
<Kat> oookay....

Kingme Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 21:43:31

Yeah...

Good luck enforcing L:L on this server, it's a solo server. Not alliance.
You'll never net again.

Celphi Game profile

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Jul 31st 2014, 21:49:12

I knew this was coming:

He's been double tapping lots of people. It was only a matter of time.

AB Jul 31, 21:12 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) DH
AB Jul 31, 21:12 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 125 B
AB Jul 31, 21:12 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) DH
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 124 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 121 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 119 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 117 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 115 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 114 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 112 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 109 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 107 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 106 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 104 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 103 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 100 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 98 B
AB Jul 31, 21:13 123456 (#100) Neverwas (#80) 97 B
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

h2orich Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 6:38:02

Originally posted by flgatorboy89:
I retalled l:l


If you retalled once, I would have moved on. But you did twice, so I farmed you. Good luck in trying to kill me. :P, You'll need help from the others I multi-tapped.

h2orich Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 6:51:07

Originally posted by flgatorboy89:
LG me 2X ....i retal with 2 ps...then another 4or 5 on me? fluff u 43


I only LGed u once.

h2orich Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 6:51:49

Originally posted by Kingme:
I'm feeling generous so i'll explain why...

It's going to take him ~10 turns to undo the civilian losses that you just gave him.

If you're going to kill someone on a solo server, and especially express. You have to catch them off guard and do it all in one attack. That's your best bet.


That amount of GS will take me about 300 turns to recover back to normal production.

Furious999 Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 7:42:33

PS Jul 31, 04:08 Time is Now (#43) MakeMyDay (#21) 399 A
PS Jul 31, 04:12 MakeMyDay (#21) Time is Now (#43) 274 A
PS Jul 31, 04:12 MakeMyDay (#21) Time is Now (#43) 217 A

Celphi Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 7:51:26

Originally posted by Furious999:
Hitting someone back who is strong enough to land four more blows doesn't strike me as too good an idea.


(Made 2nd jump) (And this guy LG me just as I batch explore)
S Aug 1, 03:29 Fine Day (#90) Seven of Nine (#22) 259 A
PS Aug 1, 03:29 Fine Day (#90) Seven of Nine (#22) 245 A
PS Aug 1, 03:29 Fine Day (#90) Seven of Nine (#22) 220 A
(Bought up military) (Switched to Dictator)
PS Aug 1, 07:38 Seven of Nine (#22) Fine Day (#90) 1022 A

Need I say more? The others can expect their retal soon. Not to mention I have 10 missiles already stocked. So, if I get too bored I'm likely to empty them.

BTW: The 1022A doesnt reflect the dictator ghost acre bonus. I got about 1800A from it all.

Edited By: Celphi on Aug 1st 2014, 7:54:16
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Furious999 Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 8:52:40

I don't know if this target is strong enough to land four blows on you but if he is then your choice of target was poor. I suspect there were far better targets available to you but maybe I'm wrong. Quite a coincidence, though, that the best target happened to be the country you were so keen to hit back at.

As to the land, well you gave up the use of it to #90 very early while the time during which you have use of the land you grab now is getting less all the time.

The missiles sound good. :)

Edited By: Furious999 on Aug 3rd 2014, 6:06:50. Reason: missing letter
See Original Post

llamky Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 12:45:33

Sometimes I don't understand this game...

Hit someone who can retal me only if I sell lots of turrets (which I did).

Took the chance to sell def but still have enough to make it hard, figured this was ok since I have 300k spies and he has 2700.. No failed ops on me and he breaks... Hmm... Did not have the turns or money to buy up big and hope.

Celphi Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 13:13:23

Not everyone spies to do a break. I'm not sure about other players, but as a dictator, I don't even bother spying before RETAL. What's the point, when you have 125% military bonus, 150% PS bonus and 140% weapons tech? You could be 100% turrets it doesn't matter.

Consider the following:
Country A has 3mil net.

Country B has 2 mil net.
Country B has 1.2 jets.
1.2 mil * 1.5 * 1.25 * 1.4 = 3150000 jets. That's more than Country A's networth. (People don't realise the multiplicative military bonus dictators get) It's extremely useful when combined with weapons tech.

For an example:
Same scenario without weapons tech
1.2 mil * 1.5 * 1.25 = 2250000 jets.

And for non-dictators:
1.2 mil * 1.5 = 1800000 jets.

Defensively- a dictator nullifies a PS by having 120% weapons tech provided his attacker has 100% weapons tech.
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Kingme Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 14:27:04

With all this Dictator preaching, I expect a damn top 10 Celphi!

:P

Xinhuan Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 16:19:12

People spy to do a break primarily to

A) Send less jets so as to have remainder jets to do another PS.
B) Use less oil.
C) Suffer less jet losses that can be avoided by just sending the bare minimum amount to break.
D) Figure out if the target has the ability to retal, war, or otherwise is a skilled player or a new player by looking at the country setup.

Kingme Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 16:44:04

Originally posted by Xinhuan:
People spy to do a break primarily to

A) Send less jets so as to have remainder jets to do another PS.
B) Use less oil.
C) Suffer less jet losses that can be avoided by just sending the bare minimum amount to break.
D) Figure out if the target has the ability to retal, war, or otherwise is a skilled player or a new player by looking at the country setup.


I'll admit I spy EVERY target for the reasons listed here... In other servers I spy to look at alliance cost to see if I need to figure in allies.

Celphi Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 17:13:42

Yes, spying helps in those regards in most situations; however, if you're a top-feeding (from retals) dictator w/ 140% weaps tech, it's pointless to spy. A rule which has worked for me nicely is to PS with 40% of their net.

For an example:
Target: 4 mil net

4 * .40 = 1.6

Send 1.6 mil jets on PS

1.6 * 1.25 * 1.5 * 1.4 = 4.2 mil jets (after you multiple attack bonuses)

(Sent jets) * (dictator bonus) * (planned strike bonus) * (weapons tech) = successful retal to topfeeder.
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Celphi Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 17:16:08

Additional note-

If you see in news that they are really scrapping the bottom with bottom feeding- then they are probably turret heavy- so you would then adjust 40% to 60%.
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

flgatorboy89 Game profile

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Aug 1st 2014, 21:48:15

fluff...i didnt realize it was h20.
Yea..I was hoping it was a less skilled player. Since youre spied out i cant do anything to u.
Seems you did LG once, since im running a tyranny now i have to keep hitting you :(
Jon
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<jon> off to bed fluffbeater :p
<mrford> i dont beat fluffs
<mrford> i eat them
<mrford> gosh
<jon> well, fluffeater
<Kat> oookay....

Furious999 Game profile

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Aug 2nd 2014, 13:46:56

This has got to hurt

PS Aug 2, 02:28 kamall (#13) Cypselos (#92) 286 A
PS Aug 2, 13:23 Cypselos (#92) kamall (#13) 1092 A

llamky Game profile

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Aug 2nd 2014, 22:44:39

Haha yeah, he spied me so I hit him.. I didn't care a great deal about the set at this point.

Craterus Game profile

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Aug 3rd 2014, 4:56:56

Lol, Bollocks I spied you, you just hit me.

Furious999 Game profile

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Aug 3rd 2014, 8:47:58

It is bottom feeders (on the Alliance server) who don't spy. The occasional bounce doesn't much matter (as long as it IS occasional) and the loss of military from oversending is also no big deal when the number of units is small.