What do you guys think of the new DR in place? other than the GA bug that has been fixed?
I think its stupid and it promotes DR abuse even more.

Say you GS a guy 100 times on Friday, hes practically in DR for the rest of the set
After 8 hours, his DR will be 50.
After 16 hours, his DR will be 25
After 24 hours, his DR will be 12.5
After 32 hours, his DR will be 6.75
After 40 hours, his DR will be 3.375
After 48 hours, his DR will be 1.6875.

So basically only after 48 hours he will be nice to hit for 1-2 grabs, but this is assuming he doesnt get hit anymore within that 48 hours.

As soon as qz tweaks out the bugs it'll be OK.

Express is a whole lot more fun now, true solo server :-)

what bugs? I'm not even talking about a bug now.

DR's a lot more flat now. It peaks as normal but declines faster. On ee stats some people might be listed as dr 15 but they are really only like dr 3-6.

I accidently hit CX :S.

The thing is that we'll never see people for LGs with 0-3 DR on the last day of express, they will be infested with so many hits the last 72 hours that the DR are in them.

I dnt think h20 gets how it works..

My bud made a dr calc :) works half way decent

Yeah you did TDA,.... jackass! :P

Do some maths.

The half-life of DR is 8 hours. That's redonk short.

Why don't u take ur chart of 100 gs and apply it to even the most severe land grabs on this severe?

Your little chart is correct but 100 hit is insane, just apply normal math to it and see how redic low it is even with other attacks. After like 2 days the total combined dr can't be more than 1-2.

Err h2orich.... DR on Express is only 6-12 hours with a base of 8 hours.

In your scenario, after a country gets GSed 100x on Friday, he will have 0 DR after 12 hours, possibly still Friday. <--- Edit: I am wrong here.

The 72-hour DR only applies to Country:Country DR, so unless you're the person GSing him 100x, he would be nice and juicy to grab. And even then, C:C DR only applies to ghost acres, so even though you will get 0 ghost acres, you still get normal acres from the grab itself.

Explain this then.
http://www.eestats.com/express/country/74

#42 GSes #74 102 times
#5 LGS #74 14 hours later for 34 acres
#27 LGS #74 24 hours later for 30 acres
#97 LGS #74 30 hours later for 30 acres
#39 LGS #74 30 hours later for 20 acres

NW differences?

Yeah definitely seems like DR is still applying there.

What I understand is DR on express is 8 hours when a 100% is sent on a successful attack and a maximum of 12 hours when more than 150% is sent on a successful attack.

this values 6-12 hours is based on half-life. So if #74 had 1 troop and #42 GSes him with 2 troops. His DR wil be based on 12 hour base.

After 102 Gses, he will be in DR 102 at 12 hour base
After 12 hours = 51 DR
After 24 hours = 25.5 DR
After 36 hours = 12.75 DR
After 48 hours = 6.375 DR
After 60 hours = 3.1875 DR

Am I right to say this?

Lets say its a 30 GS hit, and I dont think you bother trying to send exacty 100% of the offence needed for each break. So lets say you over send by an average of 125% which brings to a base of 10 hour half life DR

Hour 0 : 30 DR
Hour 10: 15 DR
Hour 20: 7.5 DR
Hour 30: 3.75 DR
Hour 40: 1.875 DR

You would have to wait 40 hours to actually get a decent hit off him again, providing no one hits him in that 40 hour period.

Yes, you are right. The post you replied to, I am wrong. Made a mistake.

Perhaps the DR calculations for news shouldn't last a full 72 hours. It's express after all.

Xin is wrong!???? Mind blown!

lol. Express is our guinea pig

How did I never even see this thread before? I was just thinking about this today when I posted in the Announcement thread.

Your numbers are actually generous, the DR would probably be higher. If the defender has 0 troops or low troops, there's a good chance each hit would be 12 hour halflife.

So DR is 100 at hour 0
12 hours - 50
24 hours - 25
36 hours - 12.5
48 hours - 6.25
60 hours - 3.125

Takes 60 hours to get back to a reasonable level. That's half the reset.

Oh, LOL, you said that as well:

so apparently DR abuse is even better now lol, protects you for longer time.

Only because qzjul didn't change the Express DR erase timeframe