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Rick Game profile

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Apr 16th 2011, 15:28:14

I'm willing to buy you a keg if you teach me how to landgrab effectively in this new landgrabbing era.

I used to pick on bots and bottomfeed when I could, but for the last umteenth sets I've pretty much been all-x.

Any takers?

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Apr 16th 2011, 15:34:04

I live in edmonton!


Landgrabbing 204: LGing in EE

Bottomfeeding -> works, but is not that effective; farm the fluff out of small countries, get medium returns over time

Midfeeding -> gets excellent returns, high retal rate; should add up faster than bottomfeeding; hit a mid-sized alliance you have L:L or 1:1 (or even 2:1 if they're fat) at the right networth ratio, get a fluff-ton of land+ghosties, and then try to mitigate losses by adjusting your nw relative to likely retallers

Topfeeding -> lower returns, you *will* get retalled; massive ghost acres sometimes pay off; topfeeding (hitting a target with more land than you...) if you can get away with it, effectively increases your land, even if you get hit back for L:L, as the ghost acres from a big PS really really help elevate a country; if they're clever and hit back for 70% L:L first hit and equal second hit, you can break even after ghost acres, but this is rare.




Bottom line: best bet is to explore or land-exchange with a mainline alliance, imho, despite the fact that nobody really does this much...
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H4xOr WaNgEr Game profile

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Apr 16th 2011, 15:42:32

LT lives in Toronto, he tends to grab well.

Rockman Game profile

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Apr 16th 2011, 15:51:11

Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:
LT lives in Toronto, he tends to grab well.


So after LT teaches him to grab, in a month, we'll see a "Live in Toronto? Know how to destock?" thread?

Rick Game profile

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Apr 16th 2011, 15:53:05

Originally posted by Rockman:
Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:
LT lives in Toronto, he tends to grab well.


So after LT teaches him to grab, in a month, we'll see a "Live in Toronto? Know how to destock?" thread?


Ahahaha..

Stocking I do just fine. Destocking I do just fine. But grabbing is making me ill. I need immediate help.

diez Game profile

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Apr 16th 2011, 15:55:54

Originally posted by Rockman:
Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:
LT lives in Toronto, he tends to grab well.


So after LT teaches him to grab, in a month, we'll see a "Live in Toronto? Know how to destock?" thread?


good one... lol

Lord Tarnava Game profile

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Apr 16th 2011, 20:13:23

I have no Destocking issues now that the 2b cap is gone ;-)

ibujke Game profile

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Apr 16th 2011, 21:52:04

Originally posted by qzjul:


Bottom line: best bet is to explore or land-exchange with a mainline alliance, imho, despite the fact that nobody really does this much...


How is land-exchange with a mainline alliance different from land-exchanging with a member of your own alliance?

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Apr 17th 2011, 19:28:24

midfeed just under losing side's topfeed rules to avoid land:land retalling so gains after retalling are somewhat good.
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ZIP Game profile

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Apr 17th 2011, 19:37:19

rick, what alliance do you play in?

just watch me and LAF for the rest of the set, i'll show you how to be effective.

am going to be 1 god damn point over nw every grab on laf so they can shove their L:L up their ass.

who else does L:L these days if you are under, just by 1 point?
fluff your 300 Spartans fool - i have 32 of the biggest fluffed mother fluffers made of titanium !!
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ZIP Game profile

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Apr 17th 2011, 19:44:29

i wonder what way they would go if i was the same nw?
1:1 or L:L
fluff your 300 Spartans fool - i have 32 of the biggest fluffed mother fluffers made of titanium !!
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Lord Tarnava Game profile

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Apr 17th 2011, 20:32:00

Originally posted by ZIP:
rick, what alliance do you play in?

just watch me and LAF for the rest of the set, i'll show you how to be effective.

am going to be 1 god damn point over nw every grab on laf so they can shove their L:L up their ass.

who else does L:L these days if you are under, just by 1 point?


That's not how it works. We will retal you l:l for any hit you do on us.

Lord Tarnava Game profile

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Apr 17th 2011, 20:32:05

double post

Erian Game profile

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Apr 17th 2011, 20:36:14

triple post. L:L now and forever.

jakeb Game profile

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Apr 18th 2011, 0:12:34

from laf's retal policies:

"Topfeeds. A topfeed is defined as a landgrab more than 400A in which the retaliation attack will obtain less than 80% of the lost land back."

so if a retaller deliberately chooses to use SS on a retal he could easily make the landgrab on him considered a "topfeed"
this is the most retarded definition of a topfeed i have ever read.
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qzjul Game profile

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Apr 18th 2011, 0:17:41

Originally posted by ibujke:
How is land-exchange with a mainline alliance different from land-exchanging with a member of your own alliance?


Because you have a chance of "getting away with it" on another alliance, not so much on your own I'd suspect.
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Apr 18th 2011, 0:22:18

I'm in buffalo if you like border hopping. I, however, will never LG in 1A due to laziness. So it's gonna be more of a keg to buy my friendship
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Apr 18th 2011, 0:42:53

Originally posted by jakeb:
from laf's retal policies:

"Topfeeds. A topfeed is defined as a landgrab more than 400A in which the retaliation attack will obtain less than 80% of the lost land back."

so if a retaller deliberately chooses to use SS on a retal he could easily make the landgrab on him considered a "topfeed"
this is the most retarded definition of a topfeed i have ever read.


no one accepts SS retals for land:land unless authorized by an FA...
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martian Game profile

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Apr 18th 2011, 15:22:08

I live in Toronto.
Is this the same rick that keeps hiding from us at earth meets?:P
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Alana Game profile

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Apr 18th 2011, 17:27:13

I live in Toronto as well!
But I don't know how to landgrab :D
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jakeb Game profile

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Apr 18th 2011, 21:56:19

Originally posted by Pang:

no one accepts SS retals for land:land unless authorized by an FA...


could still be very easily manipulated to make your returns just under 80% on the first retal.
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locket Game profile

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Apr 18th 2011, 22:01:09

Again... Clans don't like it when you do that. The only practice I ever see from laffers is maximizing their retals.

Rick Game profile

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Apr 18th 2011, 22:29:34

Hiding?

A long long long time ago I came in uniform, saw you guys, and left.. but I got pulled out. It wasn't my doing. Ever since, I've only said I'd go if LD shows up again.

:P

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Apr 19th 2011, 1:07:50

Rick ask your alliance to help you. You have 3 members that live in the GTA that I know of. Also i am sure there is more in WOF.

Kill4Free and I live just mins from toronto.
Quit why am i still posting?

martian Game profile

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Apr 19th 2011, 14:52:03

there are *lots* of earthers that live/lived in the GTA. Many of whom were leaders/high positions in tags at one point or another.

LET THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES BEGIN!:P
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Lord Tarnava Game profile

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Apr 19th 2011, 16:07:00

Toronto is the new Winnipeg!

lol that sounds so wrong.

tyug Game profile

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Apr 19th 2011, 17:08:18

lives in the outskirts of toronto as well =P!

martian Game profile

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Apr 19th 2011, 17:38:11

yes.. on so many levels:P
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