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BobbyATA Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 1:29:11

Would people be interested in the formation of a coalition of countries across many alliances who only accept country:country retals on the first hit for hits between members of the coalition. Would alliance leaders allow their members to join such a coalition?

Detmer Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 1:56:28

I would allow my members to join as long as they knew that rule only applied to other members of the coalition.

iTavi

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Jun 9th 2011, 11:25:06

country:country imo disregards the benefit of an Alliance. thus making it a Free for all server.

join single player server and do country : country :)
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DeathRider Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 14:11:00

what iTavi said.

sigma Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 16:38:05

Where do the members of this coalition sign up?

Reckless Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 16:41:51

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HeadHunter Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 16:49:40

Originally posted by Reckless:
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Ozzite Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 17:49:27

the free for all server is an alliance server though.....
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archaic Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 18:02:13

Country:Country?

Seriously, is it 1999 again? Shouldn't you call it the Coalition of no top 100 finishes? Cuz nothing makes a Rep-Casher more efficient than having to carry 3 million jets . . .

I thought this silliness was over - or is this just the 'sowing of the seeds' of the server war that a few people seem so intent on provoking this set?
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BobbyATA Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 18:41:32

I understand not wanting to join the coalition. I would probably understand alliance leaders possibly not wanting/allowing their members to join. But I really can't understand outright hostility to letting other people play the game how they want when it won't really affect you at all.

Sigma: Just express interest here, this is only an idea as of now, and p robably something we couldn't get going until next set anyways...

Tertius Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 18:44:48

So this would just be a group who is okay land-trading with one another? I don't see why anyone would be upset over that.

hanlong Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 20:11:22

"Seriously, is it 1999 again?"

actually 1998-1999 was the most fun i ever had on the alliance server.
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archaic Game profile

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Jun 9th 2011, 23:57:49

Yes - but the country:country ship has pretty much sailed

(remember having to put your tag in your country name? when was that?)
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gambit Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 0:02:41

might as well do away with clans altogether
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kemo Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 0:05:34

lets all just join together and have one world bank
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archaic Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 0:07:13

I hear that Hillary is going to be running it.
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Jun 10th 2011, 0:08:16

sexiest.
bank.
ever.
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hanlong Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 0:23:07

Originally posted by archaic:
Yes - but the country:country ship has pretty much sailed

(remember having to put your tag in your country name? when was that?)


from memory may 1999 was the first reset that used ingame tag. before then we tagged ourselves up in our countries (and sometimes for covertness we didn't tag up at all!)
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Servant Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 0:53:24

I missed the days of no tags:)
secret country lists

hahaha

that was the most fun ever:)

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BobbyATA Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 2:55:47

you are giving up something (the ability to have clanmates retal for you) to gain something (the ability to grab people and only they may retal). Its a risk some poeple might take and others might not. Are there seriously no takers other than Detmre and sgima out there?

Lord Tarnava Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 4:22:20

I would be totally down if I am free to remove myself from said list partway through the reset.

BobbyATA Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 15:45:58

good point LT, I think I"d want something like that as well. Perhaps we should not let it kick in for the first week as well, so cashers/farmers can run the incredibly high CS starts that are turn optimal if you are guaranteed not to get grabbed..

FutureGhost Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 15:54:44

SO is this going to be used to land trade some, or is it going to be a bunch of whining when someone gets hit and retals?

Won't when then need to get rid of our clans policies amongst the coalition? Else I don't see the point.

If you grab me I get 150% L:L maybe if I grab you, you only get 1:1 or something?

It sounds like it could be interesting but there are a few flaws.

ETPlayer Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 16:22:12

I believe the idea is land trading, however knowing this place, there will be someone who whines.

I would assume that the coalition makes it a gentleman's agreement to do either L:L or 1:1 so that everyone profits from the creation of ghost acres. However, I would add that with two countries of near equal size and gov't and tech, 1:1 ~= L:L.

e: I would also add in that I wouldn't mind being a part of this.

Pain Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 18:27:31

if i join can i retal with tanks?
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ETPlayer Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 18:31:23

Provided you use said tanks for grabbing and not ABs. :~>

Scorba Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 21:08:58

It seems unlikely this would catch on. If it's a group only applying this between each other then it wouldn't effect me and I wouldn't care if others used it to landtrade. I see people getting upset as soon as there's grabs from someone in the group to someone outside of it and an alliance retal made, or someone outside topfeeding a target in the group.

archaic Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 21:53:53

Forgive me for stating the obvious - but is this really any different than land trading within a tag? Sure, there will be different 'tags' involved, but its really just the Enron version of internal farming.

I can see where netter that were taking their chances grabbing out on the 'open market' so to speak, would get pretty fluffin resentful of this perpetual land generator.
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Pain Game profile

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Jun 10th 2011, 23:26:33

well archaic nothing is stopping said open market grabber from hitting one of these people who are generating all this good land. and since said countries are in this coalition they would have to retal the hit themselves, or else the double standard will show through.
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Marco Game profile

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Jun 11th 2011, 10:52:25

This does not remove the benefit of an alliance, the benefit of an alliance is tag protection, to not be hit, period. I don't care who you are, at this stage in the game anyone should be able to retal any hit. Wargaining or netgaining if someone was able to break you, you were either running low d in the first place or you should have enough to buy out jets to hit.

Country: country would make it so you just have to have a country that is not worthwhile to hit. Bawww poor netgainers missing out on that extra 100 million finish.
if youre wargaining everyone would just be a bigger break, or killed first in the fs

Marco Game profile

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Jun 11th 2011, 10:55:23

If its up to me, accepted or not, you will see an excess bs out of pact signingsalliance in the coming sets enforcing country: country. It'd remove a lot of bs from pact signings.

Marco Game profile

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Jun 11th 2011, 10:57:42

A coalition is a bad idea, tag and alliance enforcement its the point of an alliance. Not getting away with running min. Military requirements because your tag pacted out.

Marco Game profile

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Jun 11th 2011, 11:08:41

Oh and screw formal policy, you hit one of my countries he will retal 150%, if he has the jets to do so.. Maybe he would only be able to break for 65% of the given allotment in the allowed time frame. Its up to the retaller figuring is it worth buying out nd jets and oil, and was the defender silly enough to waste all the moneyBuying out d plus the jets and oil for the initial break.

Dh? 1 retal attempt in the given time frame.

If your tag does not accept this retal policy any country making a retal for another country will be treated as an initial grab and dealt with like wise.

Marco Game profile

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Jun 11th 2011, 11:13:07

Farming? 4 hits or more. Offending country dies.
defending country sucks it up, its his loss and fault for not running an accountable amount of d


This is not glorys policy, but it might be in the near future. unpacted alliance enforcement.

Marco Game profile

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Jun 11th 2011, 11:15:43

Or perhaps instead of 150% we could do 200-300%.

CKHustler

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Jun 11th 2011, 17:39:18

so let me get this straight...I can hit one of these countries and they can only retal me country:country, but I don't have to join the coalition? Or is this only for countries within the coalition that can do this?

Seems to me that it is organized land trading. You should all just say that between weeks 2-5 every country in the coalition can only be hit 3 times/day by other countries within the coalition. Each country would then be free to hit others 3 times/day as well giving equal land to all. If an outside country hits a coalition country, the alliance would take over and retal for them(goes back to my question above). You can all keep low defense and gain immense land while not worrying about getting grabbed after week 5 and thus you can stock in peace.

Seems great to me right?

Marco Game profile

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Jun 11th 2011, 19:24:12

No hustler, that sounds lane, why not make a few hits in a round insteadof playing it safe like a widdle gwirly man and hit something, you might get away with it in country country

hanlong Game profile

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Jun 11th 2011, 19:49:33

Originally posted by BobbyATA:
Detmre and sgima


DOUBLE SPELLING FAIL!
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Detmer Game profile

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Jun 11th 2011, 20:28:26

Originally posted by hanlong:
Originally posted by BobbyATA:
Detmre and sgima


DOUBLE SPELLING FAIL!


Also, I didn't even say I'd join - just that I'd allow PDMers to get involved in this if they wanted to.

CKHustler

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Jun 12th 2011, 1:23:05

Marco, you can explain away where my logic is flawed on what will happen. I didn't state anything on my intentions, just my conclusion of a type of atmosphere it will provoke. Country:country retals are in the past and not coming back on a large scale. L:L for country:country only would be preferable with 1:1 on everything else. That promotes grabbing and has alliance protection. country:country is not meant for alliance because others will use their alliance protection and gain the upper hand. Just my observation Marco.

MorTcuS Game profile

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Jun 12th 2011, 2:06:12

im sorry but ive been out of the game for months, country:country exists?
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ETPlayer Game profile

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Jun 12th 2011, 3:36:43

PDM does include a C:C stipulation in it's policy.

Drow Game profile

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Jun 12th 2011, 3:43:20

It's pdm policy that we accept and give EITHER c:c or 1:1 on general land grabs, with fas dealing with more complex issues. This means that generally both the country grabbing in the first place, and the person retalling are profiting.

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Detmer Game profile

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Jun 12th 2011, 3:55:52

Originally posted by Drow:
It's pdm policy that we accept and give EITHER c:c or 1:1 on general land grabs, with fas dealing with more complex issues. This means that generally both the country grabbing in the first place, and the person retalling are profiting.


To elaborate, we do L:L for C:C and 1:1 for x-C:C. It is not random.

Samx2

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Jun 12th 2011, 4:23:54

can i play untag, and join this coalition ?